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Stallion Trike Mods
Please use this thread to post modifications you have done to your Stallion:
Please post pictures of your custom paint jobs, electrical switches that you added that show good locations, suspension modifications, Lights, Exc...
I would like this thread to be a clearing house of modification information for Stallion owners.
If you purchased new light bulbs for your fog lights or head lights that were brighter than the stock bulbs what was the model number that you had to size it up to? I find this information is difficult to get. And that is one change I want to make.
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Hi, I installed (2) 12 volt power outlets. One on the dash part of the hood and the other on the dash below the hood area. Both are on the left side. One just to the left of the instrument panel there is a spot you can drill a hole thru to mount the outlet and below that to the left of the wheel is other spot. Both are wide open from the back in the engine compartment. I wired both grounds to different bolts on the left hood latch. The hood latches are good ground. Now the hot side I ran the wires to a power block that you will find on the left side of the engine compartment about 8 inches down and look down just by the airfilter on the dash side of the airfilter. There are (2) bolts/posts sticking up and they both are hot. I put the wire with lugs over the posts and put another nut on the post to secure it.
Please make sure you have an in line fuse in your power leads.
Also make sure you run your wiring along the areas where it will not be crimped for the upper power outlet that is in the hood part.
Is you follow the wiring harness you should be okay.
The lower one went straight to the attachment points. I hope this helps.
Ted Unit 175
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hi i replace my head lights to hid lights thay make a motorcycle set with small balless just ask for h9 set i all so put a set of kc daylighters on front made up some brakets looks like the old vw you want lights i can see now wow i put in a guage on right of the instrument cluster to show clock out side temp date comeing home at night i like to see what time it is with the radio on cant get time i allso replace the instrument cluster to white fase guages looks real cool put in some 12v plugs for the heated coat geting cold out not much out there for the stallion got to do things your self i all so made up the duel exh just thying to have all the nice things my goldwing has o i put two more speakers in all so i put them on each side down where you open the hood now can hear the radio better when i going 120 put on some tulsa wind wings thats about it for now i dont know how to post pip like to show you the front lights to see what you think only had on biker that did not like them thanks guys kippy
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Kippy, you've been doing a lot! Is there anyone you know who could show you how, or would post the pictures for you? We'd all like to see what you've done.
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A general question. I have talked with our auto parts places here but they look at me very puzzled when I ask them for wax remover. Does anyone have any suggestions for cleaning the stallion surface before applying 3M tape to it? I know there is a product out there its just a matter of finding it. I sure don’t want this to move once it is attached. Thanks
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I use alcohol and it seems to work fine. Another tip, when applying
the 3M tape there is a product from 3M called adhesion promoter.
You can get it in small pads similar to medical gauze or you can get a promoter pen. The pen is the cheapest way to go.
Here's a link:[URL=http://bondprousa.thomasnet.com/item/all-categories/adhesion-promoter/4298-1-2-oz-pen?&plpver=10&origin=viewitems&by=prod&assetid=spec&filter=0]Item # 4298-1/2 oz. Pen, 4298 Adhesion Promoter - 1/2 oz. Primer Pen on Bond Pro[/URL]
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Mattel,
What have you discovered on the headlamps? My brother has used the type bulb ,but increased the wattage to 100.He says its better but still not as bright as he'd like. The new lamps from TBS are not compatible with our stallions.Have a safe Daytona
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3togo,
I have the original headlamps that are the new HID style. They only replaced my bulbs and the wire harness when my shocks were replaced, as they were mushed my the tire and did not work. They are bright but the problem that I have is when I ride tight mountain roads I find they are focused just a little too low, and I have a hard time seeing far enough ahead with my low beams. I find the driving lights take up some of the light between the high and low, but I cannot ride at night in the mountains without my driving lights. I asked for them to adjust the lows up a tad, and I have not had a chance to check on how they do, and I may not get a chance for a few more months.
I have seen some people put fork lights on, and they can be adjusted up and down and switched on and off as conditions dictate, but I don't like the way they break up the sleek look.
I am about to install some LED's in the side vents in front of the wheels, but, I am just trying to get some light on the side of the bike to be seen better at night.
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Mattel, Tell me more about your headlight swap out. Did your dealer do it? I gather it was a matter of bulb changing along with the wiring harness? Strange I have complained about the dim lights and was told they would let me know if a resolution came along. When did this occur? What is your last 3 of the vin? Now even more important. You say you had the shocks replaced? Was that front or rear and why? How many miles on the drive train?
Back to the lights do you know if we can get what they installed on the after market?
Thanks for the input.
Ted
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I have installed some white led's on my forks called Hyperbrites,
I will attempt to post a picture here.
[url=http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii399/Fortsand/Hyperbrite3.jpg]Hyperbrites[/url]
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I made a switch box out of a project box from Radio Shack.
[url=http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii399/Fortsand/Switchbox24Jan09.jpg]switchbox for accessories[/url]
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I wanted my driving lights to remain on all the time. I wanted to keep the factory type connectors to make the modification.
I found some of the same type connectors called Delphi connectors on line and made the mod. I have them wired so that they come on when the ignition is turned on.
[url=http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii399/Fortsand/Reconfiguredrunninglites26Jan09.jpg]Running light mod[/url]
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Fortsand,
I love your led's can you take a close up of the leds unlit? Love the Cheese Wagon in the background, is that your other mode of transportation? At least it was not a short bus!!!!
I found some great sealed clear led lit marine switches at a local marine supply house. I will try to get a picture of it this weekend. It only requires a 1/4" hole, and it is very clean looking. It lites up white when it is off and the panel lights are on, and red when it is on. I am going to use it to turn on my led's that I am going to use for accents on the front chrome and in the passenger area.
Were you able to find a switched power source? I am assuming there is one on the heater control panel that comes on when you turn the lights on. What did you use?
Timgala,
My vin is 313 (lucky 13). The front shocks were replaced by the dealer, they sat too low and moved too much. They just put the same lights back in.
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No, I am not kin to the bus, it just happened to be sitting in the empty parking lot.
I have a fuse tap on #5 fuse under the seat. This slot has a 30 amp fuse from the factory but it is not used for anything. It also is powered when the ignition is switched on. I use this to trigger my relay for my fuseblock under the hood. I have a different fuse block coming from this site [url]www.fuzeblocks.com[/url]. It incorporates the relay, so it will cut down on my wiring.
[url=http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii399/Fortsand/Hyperbrite1.jpg]Hyperbrite power off][/url]
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Thanks Mattel, I'll be looking for the switch. Besides the pic. if you get make and model of it GREAT.
FORTSAND nice lights and thanks for the info on keeping the driving lights on. We put them on all the time now and to have them come on auto with the running light will be great. Thanks Ted
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Yes, I messed up on that one, I printed out the "destructions"
so I can follow them to the letter.
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I installed some super bright led's that function with the brake lights.
They modulate several times when the brakes are applied, then go steady. They are from [url=http://www.hyperlites.com]Hyperlites Flashing LED Motorcycle brake lights, Running Lights and Turn Signal[/url] Also, you will notice I tossed the original muffler. It is a lot quieter now.
[url=http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii399/Fortsand/Hyperlites.jpg]Hyperlite brake and running lites [/url]
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I was not aware that video could be posted, but I uploaded a clip
to photobucket so I guess it is good to go. This is a short clip
of my lights and horn and also check out the exhaust.
[url=http://s549.photobucket.com/albums/ii399/Fortsand/?action=view¤t=Stallionlightflick.flv]Stallionlightflick.flv video by Fortsand - Photobucket[/url]
Amazing, I can't believe it worked.
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Please provide as much information as you have available on the muffler switch out, such as make, model, etc. From your video is sounds almost as quiet as as a Gold Wing. I'd also be interested in an approx cost to switch it out.
Thanks.
Wayne
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The local Top Gun muffler did the job. I don't know the brand of
muffler, but it is a standard oval shaped 15" car muffler. The job was $175.
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Fortsand,
I love your posts. You are helping us all out a lot with your detailed posts and pictures. I have a question from your video, did you convert your existing headlights to flasher style with a kit, or did you do it your self? I may have missed your post on this. I was considering getting that hyper-light kit with the pulsing lights, but as I read the federal law it seems it would only apply to head lights, I am not sure if it would cover driving lights.
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Thanks for the compliments.
The modulating headlight comes from [URL=http://www.kisantech.com]www.kisantech.com[/URL]. I am using
the stock bulbs. The modulator unit is plug and play and connects in series with the bulb. It is connected to the high beam and when going to low beam it is automatically turned off. It has a sensor which disables it at night. I ran one on a Gold Wing for seven years and it never gave a minute of problem, and bulbs will last longer as the bulbs never get to full intensity. When you go
on the Kisan web page, just look for the H-9 bulb application.
About the brake lights, I also had modulating brake lights on the Gold Wing and was never stopped. They only flash for a few seconds and then go steady. The motorcycle safety handbook
recommends tapping the brakes a few times when coming to a stop so that the brake lights will flash.
This just does it automatically.
Additionally, I have had them on my suv for over three years and never been stopped.
Ask Zook if you can see them?
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Yeah you can see em for sure. I got a good look at em about 4:30 AM departing Joe's house after our trip back from Texas! He has the same lights on his Honda (I think) SUV and led me out of his subdivision and pointed me to I-10 for my final leg home. Made a good friend that trip and I'll tell you hes a fine fellow. A true believer and a fine motorcycle technician too.
Good work on all your mods Joe and thanks for posting them to the board! Im curious to know what the Stallion sounds like under acceleration? Its mighty quite idling.
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Great info Fortsand,
Do you have or recommend the tailblazer brake lights?
(It looked like you had the led tail lights)
I am guessing the ones to order are the 20w-D 2 pack?
I would like to have the brightest tail lights, but I may need to go with the 10w lights. Do you know what comes on the stock Stallion? I am guessing they are just regular non-halogen lights.
Do you think the 20w's will work? TBMS was saying not to change anything in the electrical system, but I am not sure that is not just a standard answer to any non stock question.
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My taillights are stock, I haven't changed anything. I only have
the hyperlight led's under the headrest. The Tailblazer is a product made by Kisan that makes the brake lights modulate. I had one of those on my Gold Wing. I am not aware of the oem bulb wattage.
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Accent LED lights
Thanks again for the info Fortsand!
Here is my weekend project. Cold winter weekends are great for working on my Stallion.
Accent LED lights:
OK here is what i did:
I purchased Street fx electro pods motorcycle kit. The kit includes 6 oval posts with 6 LEDs each and two strips with 6 LEDs on them. I only installed the six red oval pods.
2 White LED pods:
I installed two white pods in the vent area in front of the wheels. My logic for this was to light up the side of the bike so I can be seen better at night, and I could not use red because I was trying to keep it street legal. So from the front you can see the white LED's but I tucked them far enough under the lip of the fiberglass that you cannot see it unless you are very far forward. You can see the light very well at night. It also acts as a second set of driving lights, and I can see the area of the road and the curb that I was not able to see before. It also lights up the lower fiberglass area at night and makes it easier to see when parking against the curb in the city or a dark driveway.
RED led pods:
I put one pod above each of my break and gas peddles.
It lights up the chrome on the gas pedal really well!
I like it because I can see when the front LED's are on since I did not install the lighted switch.
I am not as gifted as some of you with the electronics, but I am learning. I also constructed two plastic silver lined holders for the pods to install under the front cowling just rear of the chrome swing arm on each side. The reason for constructing this plastic guard is so you cannot see the bare red LED lights directly. North Carolina like many states have a law which makes it illegal to have red lights visible from the front of any vehicle. I set the pods far enough back to allow them to be visible to the chrome and get the nice bright reflections in the swing arm and the wheel, but you cannot see the bare red led bulbs unless you get down on your knees and peer into the front area. The picture is the best I can do. They look great at night! The front wheel sparkles!
I mounted the box up against the painted lip of the cowling.
I wired my lights to a constant on source of power. I figured that even if someone turned it on when I was not around the LED's used such little power it would not matter.
I also figured I can leave them on instead of the my warning flashers when I am away from my bike at night. I plan to install the strip LED's under the bike when I find a good place for them.
I was not able to find a good spot that was even due to the unsymmetrically of the frame.
I liked this project. It cost me about $100.00, and was a good value as I feel it will add to the safety of the bike and the custom look.
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To all you "warm-weather" Stallion owners, Has anyone come up with any improvements for the audio from the stereo to be louder, such as front speakers or helmet plug-ins? If so, what did you do or use and can you post some pictures of how you mounted front speakers or connected helmet plug-ins?
Being here in "still-frozen" Minnesota I still have some time to wait before I can ride again and I'd like to get this problem solved so when I do get the old steed back out I'll be able to hear my music.
Thanks,
Wayne
#414
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This setup just came on line today from Sierra Electronics.
[URL=http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SIE-JMCB-STAL]http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail....=SIE-JMCB-STAL[/URL]
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Here's some pictures of my XM radio and GPS mounting, also Fuzeblock assembly. My XM and GPS are hard wired.
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[QUOTE=Fortsand;7667]This setup just came on line today from Sierra Electronics.
[URL=http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SIE-JMCB-STAL]Products[/URL][/QUOTE]
Fortsand,
I ordered the J&M 2003 Stallion kit from Sierra Electronics. I am going to try to install it for my ride down to Daytona. I want to start next Monday night (I am going to spend a romantic weekend in the mountains with my sweetie first). Is there anything that I need to look out for, or anything I need to buy outside the kit and the headsets and lower cords?
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Looking at the picture they have on the web, it appears that a cable from the unit is going through the panel just above the a/c outlet.
I also had questions about where the CB antenna will mount.
I decided to order a Starcom digital unit. They are made in England, but have dealers here in the US. They guarantee that the intercom can be heard at 100mph. It also comes with 2 headsets. This setup will cost just over $500. I may have to buy a couple more components later. I'll have to see how it works out after I receive it. It is supposed to be here Monday.
To purchase the J&M kit with two of their Elite headsets would have been over $1000. I hope it works out for you.
One more question I had about the J&M unit is, mine has that map light setup where their unit is installed.
How is that going to conflict.
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J&M 2003 install pictures
Here are some pictures of my J&M installed. I will follow up with some more and some good text later in the week. I have to get to bed!
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Muffler sounds GOOD the radio sounds good to. Is that the original Horn. Looking at the front end " Hyperlight turned off " I must say being a machinist am impressed with the workmanship on the front end.
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New custom stallion paint job!
Here is another custom paint job on a Stallion I seen it on Ebay!!!!
This one is way better than the last one I seen on ebay!
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I had a J&M like Mattel has but mine was installed on my FJR1300, now it is on the new SILVER Stallion and just about the same place as Mattel's is, I had nothing above it so I moved mine up.
I put the power outlet on the top the same place the other guy put his front speakers. then I got a pair of audio plugs that go into a stereo plug and ran that into the J&M and now I have helmet speakers that work fine.
I also installed a alarm system that will go off if you get to close to the stallion, or bump it. and the ignition is disabled if you want to try and start it. also if someone tries to hijack the stallion I can kill the engine as they are driving off.
I also ran some battery cables from the battery to the inside of the trunk and put a 50 amp plug on the cables in the trunk, then I made up a set of jumper cables with the mate to the 50 amp plug so I do not have to pull the wheel to jump the thing should I have to.
other things to follow, after all I have only had this thing a week.
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Boy SILVERDEVIL have you been busy. Which security system did you install? Any special problems with the install? Any suggestions?
The plug in a good idea.
Ted
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the alarm system I got was SCORPIO 600
they have 3 models and this the middle one which comes with a pager/remote
the cheapest model will not page you, you only have a remote
the highest price one will auto set the alarm when you walk away with the pager in you pocket, and auto turn it off when you get close to the trike.
for $334 shipping and all you get 3 extras in the 600 model
1. is a perimeter sensor which will go off when someone gets close, not alarm but just a chirping bird sound, if you get to close or lean in the alarm will go off.
2. battery back up in case your trike battery goes bad or disconnected.
3. is the anti-hijack feature, this is not wired in yet as the info I got from TMS was incorrect. I have a daughter that lives 10 miles from them so I have reasons to go there, next time I will push a little harder for the correct info.
the info needed is the "ignition/engine control wire"
the unit comes with a pager which how you set the alarm on and off and if it goes off it will beep you and show which alarm was set.
it was not hard to install except to find the "ignition/engine control wire"
I mounted the main unit on the gas tank and the perimeter sensor on the bar that holds the top of the passenger back rest in place, within inches of the tank.
pull your back rest out then you pull the seat out by grabbing the back of it and lifting it up. then you will see the 2 bolts that hold the passenger back rest in place, remove the 2 bolts and pull the bottom of the back rest and let the top come down.
now you got all the room in the world to install everything except where do you want to hook the power to. I extended the wire and went into the fuse box which is under your seat that you have already removed.
I pulled the fuse out of #28 shown on page 40 of your owner's manual and put the wire on the hot side, you need a meter or something to light a 12v bulb
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Thanks I will look into it. Ted
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Although I want to get an alarm I am not sure anyone would want to steal a Stallion. They will not know what to do with most of the parts, heck, we don't even know where half of them come from! The tires are so specific, only one car ever made in the history of mankind uses that size, and there are only two! It has a ford parts (not Honda which are the most stolen). It is a motorcycle not a car, a motorcycle thief wants motorcycles parts not car parts. Most of the parts are only good to Stallion users ( all 300 of them?????) not much of a market for fencing parts. And to cap it off, how long do you think you are going to ride on a stolen stallion before you are caught????? APB for a red three wheeled Stallion last seen at the mall, duuu. Even stupid thief's are not that stupid. With that said I would still like to put one on my bike, but I have other priorities first.
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Its the ones that just want to Joy ride, and and end up trashing it.