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    So I have the SE tuner for the trike. The old owner had it tuned before I got it. I'm a novice with the tuner software. I folliwed a thread that explained how to use the tuner.*
    I know the previous owner loaded a map not sure whether it was a dyno run or smart tune.

    I have since decatted, added a kn with a freer flowing ac cover and added the tts100
    What I'm trying to figure out is can I just run the record on the vci and load a smart tune, or do I have to load a canned map first. I don't have a copy of the map that the previous owner loaded and looking through the map list didn't see anything that was clear to what I got.*
    Not really sure how to proceed here.

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    The VCI should contain the last map loaded, you can download this map from the VCI and see what they did. Your local dealer should also have a training CD which isn't that expensive, the CD should answer a bunch of questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    The VCI should contain the last map loaded, you can download this map from the VCI and see what they did. Your local dealer should also have a training CD which isn't that expensive, the CD should answer a bunch of questions.

    I'll check the vci but I think everything was erased when an update occurred. I couldn't do anything in the software until the update was loaded.*
    I followed the thread on one of the Harley forums for se tuner for dummies. I'm good until I try and find a map to load, can't find anything close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafoot2 View Post
    I'll check the vci but I think everything was erased when an update occurred. I couldn't do anything in the software until the update was loaded.*
    I followed the thread on one of the Harley forums for se tuner for dummies. I'm good until I try and find a map to load, can't find anything close.
    As for the map with the TTS-100 cams, I'd choose the map for Stage 2 with the SE255 cams and tune from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    As for the map with the TTS-100 cams, I'd choose the map for Stage 2 with the SE255 cams and tune from there.

    Yea I gave TTS a call and he said the same. Not having much luck when I search through the available maps in the SE program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    As for the map with the TTS-100 cams, I'd choose the map for Stage 2 with the SE255 cams and tune from there.

    OK, I need a clarification.

    I have the SE Super Tuner Software and map files installed on my PC. In the map files I see two files associated to the SE-255 cam for 2015, Air-Cooled Touring engines:

    Configuration CR Cam Head Throttle Body Injector File Name
    1800 Stage 1 9.2 SE-255 (Std in CVO) O.E. 50mm 4.3 gm/sec 617SEE204
    1800 Stage 1 w/58mm Throttle Body 9.2 SE-255 (Std in CVO) O.E. 58mm 4.3 gm/sec 617SGK202

    Both appear to be for a 110 cid motor. One with a stock throttle body and the other with a 58mm throttle body. I also see the 9.2 CR parameter - I thought the 2015, 103 motor was 9.7 CR?

    So, I assume you are speaking of file "617SEE204" (stock throttle body)?

    If this is incorrect, please will someone provide the map file name that is correct.

    Thanks,

    Springman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springman2007 View Post
    OK, I need a clarification.

    I have the SE Super Tuner Software and map files installed on my PC. In the map files I see two files associated to the SE-255 cam for 2015, Air-Cooled Touring engines:

    Configuration CR Cam Head Throttle Body Injector File Name
    1800 Stage 1 9.2 SE-255 (Std in CVO) O.E. 50mm 4.3 gm/sec 617SEE204
    1800 Stage 1 w/58mm Throttle Body 9.2 SE-255 (Std in CVO) O.E. 58mm 4.3 gm/sec 617SGK202

    Both appear to be for a 110 cid motor. One with a stock throttle body and the other with a 58mm throttle body. I also see the 9.2 CR parameter - I thought the 2015, 103 motor was 9.7 CR?

    So, I assume you are speaking of file "617SEE204" (stock throttle body)?

    If this is incorrect, please will someone provide the map file name that is correct.

    Thanks,

    Springman
    I wish I could help, I don't have the latest software installed. I know you should be looking for a 1690 engine with 50 mm throttle body and SE255 cams, you need the Stage 2 map. Neither of the 2 maps you are showing will work without a whole lot of tweaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    I wish I could help, I don't have the latest software installed. I know you should be looking for a 1690 engine with 50 mm throttle body and SE255 cams, you need the Stage 2 map. Neither of the 2 maps you are showing will work without a whole lot of tweaking.
    OK, there is this file:

    Configuration CR Cam Head Throttle Body Injector File Name
    2013 Touring, 1690 Stage 2 w/SE-255 Cams 9.7 SE-255 (Std in CVO) O.E. O.E. 4.3 gm/sec 044SBN004

    The file above, "name = 044SBN004" is for a 2013 Touring bike/trike.
    The CID is correct for a 2015 FLRT/TG
    The CR is correct for a 2015 FLRT/TG
    It is for a SE-255 cam set
    For stock heads and throttle body (I think they are the same from 2013 to 2015?)
    But, I am unsure on the 4.3 injector size (Anyone know the injector size for a stock, 2015 Freewheeler?)

    So, would/could I use this map file as a baseline for tuning a TTS-100 cam in a 2015 FLRT?

    Springman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springman2007 View Post
    OK, there is this file:

    Configuration CR Cam Head Throttle Body Injector File Name
    2013 Touring, 1690 Stage 2 w/SE-255 Cams 9.7 SE-255 (Std in CVO) O.E. O.E. 4.3 gm/sec 044SBN004

    The file above, "name = 044SBN004" is for a 2013 Touring bike/trike.
    The CID is correct for a 2015 FLRT/TG
    The CR is correct for a 2015 FLRT/TG
    It is for a SE-255 cam set
    For stock heads and throttle body (I think they are the same from 2013 to 2015?)
    But, I am unsure on the 4.3 injector size (Anyone know the injector size for a stock, 2015 Freewheeler?)

    So, would/could I use this map file as a baseline for tuning a TTS-100 cam in a 2015 FLRT?

    Springman
    Injector size is correct, that map should work since your's isn't liquid cooled. I'm surprised they don't have a 2015 MY touring specific map. Is your software the lastest? I believe you can get the latest software here http://prosupertuner.harley-davidson...uperTuner.aspx by punching in your VCI serial number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    Injector size is correct, that map should work since your's isn't liquid cooled. I'm surprised they don't have a 2015 MY touring specific map. Is your software the lastest? I believe you can get the latest software here http://prosupertuner.harley-davidson...uperTuner.aspx by punching in your VCI serial number.
    YEP! This is where I downloaded my current install and map file library from on 4/28/15. The only 2015 Touring files referenced to the SE-255 Cams are for 110 CID, CVO motors.

    So, with the injector size confirmed: The initial, baseline map to tune a 2015 FLRT or TG with a TTS-100 cam installed would be the map file: 044SBN004.dt0

    The above mentioned file is actually found in the library map references as for a 2013 Touring model.

    Springman

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