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Thread: Gear whine on CSC Conversion

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino65 View Post
    If it's possible I would like to know approximate mileage since triked. Also if gearbox & diff had thin film of grease/grime. Sprayed mine down with degreaser and rinsed off after getting it.
    I finished the service and took it for another test ride. There was no noticeable whine. I did notice what I would call double back-lash noise when letting-off and throttling-on that I would call normal. As a result, shifts can be a little clunky.

    The owner bought this trike used, the mileage/age of trike is not known. However, the mileage on the ODM is 57k. And the kit is on a 2005 GL1800.

    Yes ... the gearbox in the rear also has a film of oil on it. Not to the point that I would worry about it, as in something leaking. Oil could be weeping from the "silicone gasket" between the 2 gear boxes, of from silicone oil over spray ... or possibly the gear boxes come shipped with a film of oil on them when new. The oil film does not appear to be coming from any seals, or axel boots leaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    I finished the service and took it for another test ride. There was no noticeable whine. I did notice what I would call double back-lash noise when letting-off and throttling-on that I would call normal. As a result, shifts can be a little clunky.

    The owner bought this trike used, the mileage/age of trike is not known. However, the mileage on the ODM is 57k. And the kit is on a 2005 GL1800.

    Yes ... the gearbox in the rear also has a film of oil on it. Not to the point that I would worry about it, as in something leaking. Oil could be weeping from the "silicone gasket" between the 2 gear boxes, of from silicone oil over spray ... or possibly the gear boxes come shipped with a film of oil on them when new. The oil film does not appear to be coming from any seals, or axel boots leaking.
    Thanks Greg for the feedback. Still not sure what to think about gear whine or whatever it may be. Met another GW rider Sunday at my coffee bar. He was on a 04' 2 wheel Wing. His was noticeably quieter running than mine just idling. Between the 2 mine had more of a sing or whine to motor. Mines has 52k miles where his only 13k. IDK maybe it's motor whine I'm hearing.
    2002 GL1800 with CSC trike kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino65 View Post
    Thanks Greg for the feedback. Still not sure what to think about gear whine or whatever it may be. Met another GW rider Sunday at my coffee bar. He was on a 04' 2 wheel Wing. His was noticeably quieter running than mine just idling. Between the 2 mine had more of a sing or whine to motor. Mines has 52k miles where his only 13k. IDK maybe it's motor whine I'm hearing.
    Are you referring to a whine at idle or one that increases while going down the road ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    Are you referring to a whine at idle or one that increases while going down the road ???
    When going down the road. But after listening to one of about same year but considerably less miles it was quieter just idling. Hoping for a decent day when I can get out and rack up a couple hundred miles and really get a feel for it

    Aside from regular oil changes the last service previous owner had done was at 39k miles which was rear diff, gearbox, clutch and brake fluids change.

    Wondering if noise has always been there and just nature of it?
    2002 GL1800 with CSC trike kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino65 View Post
    When going down the road. But after listening to one of about same year but considerably less miles it was quieter just idling. Hoping for a decent day when I can get out and rack up a couple hundred miles and really get a feel for it

    Aside from regular oil changes the last service previous owner had done was at 39k miles which was rear diff, gearbox, clutch and brake fluids change.

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    Wondering if noise has always been there and just nature of it?
    If you are referring to a whine that you hear while at a stop, and with the engine running, it is coming from the engine area. The rear end has nothing to do with it since the rear wheels, and the drive shaft are not spinning.

    By nature, GL1800s all have a whine coming from the engine area. More specifically, it mainly comes from a drive unit that drives the alternator. The alternator drive unit is called an alternator drive gear, and it's housed in the rear case directly in front of the alternator. Also know as a ADG. If you remove the chrome engine cover on the left side, you will see the alternator. If this is the whine that you are hearing, it should me loudest near the alternator.

    What you might be hearing could be normal. The 2006+ years are usually whinier. However, the 2001-05 are whinny too, and if your Wing has ever had an ADG repair, the whine can be very similar to the newer years. A trained ear can tell the difference, and should be able to distinguish if your whine is normal and nothing to worry about. Most owners learn to "tune" out ADG whine.
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    We bought a 2010 1800 goldwing this past year with California Side Car trike kit on it. Was installed 3-11 according to Will @ CSC . Have around 11,000 miles on it now. Noticed every once in awhile when coming to a complete stop and using the foot brake it will make kind of a clunking sound but not a deep sounding clunk. Does this once and is fine. Might do it on next stop and might not. Should state that it makes the sound after coming to a complete stop and when just starting to take off from a complete stop.
    Any ideas?
    Didn't do this before Honda Brake Recall. But they looked it over and said everything looks fine and runs like it should. Won't make the clunk all the time is the weird part. Of course won't do it at dealers either!
    Will @ CSC said the driveshaft weld service bulletin was done on 6-28-12.
    I am wondering if it is the splines on the driveshaft.
    What does one ask for if wanting the driveshaft update kit you guys are talking about?
    Appreciate any help you can give me!
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenBackJack View Post
    We bought a 2010 1800 goldwing this past year with California Side Car trike kit on it. Was installed 3-11 according to Will @ CSC . Have around 11,000 miles on it now. Noticed every once in awhile when coming to a complete stop and using the foot brake it will make kind of a clunking sound but not a deep sounding clunk. Does this once and is fine. Might do it on next stop and might not. Should state that it makes the sound after coming to a complete stop and when just starting to take off from a complete stop.
    Any ideas?
    Didn't do this before Honda Brake Recall. But they looked it over and said everything looks fine and runs like it should. Won't make the clunk all the time is the weird part. Of course won't do it at dealers either!
    Will @ CSC said the driveshaft weld service bulletin was done on 6-28-12.
    I am wondering if it is the splines on the driveshaft.
    What does one ask for if wanting the driveshaft update kit you guys are talking about?
    Appreciate any help you can give me!
    Thanks
    Will at CSC should know what you are wanting by simply referring to update kit. It does away with gearbox and you get there updated automotive style driveshaft. Better mileage, rolls easier so I was told by Will
    2002 GL1800 with CSC trike kit

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