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    Dang ... the bike won ... that don't happen much.

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    Had to have been Chuck Norris. Destroyed a car and a truck with a single kick...

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    Trouble was though he has left the scene of a crash. Also if there are any injuries it might even be a felony even if he did not start the road rage. Just because the gray car and him can't share the road correctly may have hurt someone else like in the SUV that turned over. He should of backed off. And if he really wanted to do something follow the car until he can get the attention of an LEO.
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    That rider on the bike is wrong on so many levels. I hope that they catch him and give him what he really deserves. Two wrongs do not make a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    Had to have been Chuck Norris. Destroyed a car and a truck with a single kick...
    The difference in reporting is rather interesting. The cyclist has some serious skills. Seems like California in that area seriously dislike bikers and the videos are edited with bias suggestons. Plenty of fault in that exchange, but it appears to me that the sedan did its best to end the cyclists life.
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    Since I had some time I checked into California traffic law and this is how I assess the incident. I needed to organize on notepad before posting. It is possible that the courts will see it differently. I've been seeing a lot of bias against the cyclist.

    This is how I see fault in that incident after doing considerable research:As a matter of the total liability, if/when they find the motorcyclist and can bring charges to all involved, these charges could be filed...

    • The sedan should be charged for the violations: (illegal HOV entry/exit CVC 21655.8(a); unsafe lane change CVC 22107; illegal use of HOV lane CVC 21655.5(b)) — possibly two counts of each, but given that only one count of each is on video, probably just one count of each

    • The sedan should be charged with striking the motorcyclist and failing to pull over following the off-camera accident precipitated by above CVC 21655.8(a) and CVC 22107 — a misdemeanor hit and run offense as per CVC 20002(c)

    • The motorcyclist should be charged for kicking the car, either by California Penal Code (CPC) 242, battery in a road rage situation, or by CPC 1821, tampering with a vehicle

    • The sedan should be charged with road rage related "Assault with a Deadly Weapon" and "Aggravated Assault" for swerving at and hitting the motorcyclist, as per CPC 245(a)(1)

    • The sedan should be charged with felony "Reckless Driving" as per CVC 23103 and 23104, having caused bodily harm to the driver of the white truck

    • The motorcyclist should also be charged with CVC 20002(c) for leaving the scene of an accident; misdemeanor in this case because no damage was directly caused by the motorcyclist (the sedan could make a case for dents caused by the kicks, but that might be difficult to prove given that the car was totaled afterwards) These charges could mean that the sedan driver would face serious fines (more than $12000; $10000 for assault, $1400 or more for the HOV infractions, $1000 for hit and run, plus other accident-related fines), jail time up to 7 years (4 years max for assault with a deadly weapon, 3 for reckless driving causing bodily injury), and community service. The motorcyclist could be fined about $1000 to $2000 and face jail time up to 6 months for battery/tampering and leaving the scene of an accident (though charges could get worse if the motorcyclist does not turn himself in and has to be caught by police). Being a commuter hell, L.A. has a lot of anti-bicyclist/anti-motorcyclist sentiment, and that could translate to a judge giving a more significant percentage of blame onto the motorcyclist, but if the full video plays in court then it still looks far worse for the sedan driver from my perspective.
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    What we did not see is what happened before the camera was turned on. The motorcyclist didn't just decide to go kick the guy's door, unprovoked. I think it was a reaction to something the driver did that we did not see, albeit a reckless and stupid reaction that could have easily gotten him killed. Never pick a fight with a po'd guy in a 4000 lb battering ram.

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    If you look as soon as the video starts, The car crosses over into the lane the motorcycle is in' to bock and or hit the Motorcycle....Its a shame the video didn't start 3 seconds sooner...

    The kick might have been a spontaneous reaction to the car squeezing him into the Jersey Wall..
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    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...623-story.html

    Now, the man who videotaped the automotive spectacle is speaking out about who appeared to be at fault.

    In an interview with The Times on Friday, Chris Traber, 47, of Santa Clarita, said both men appeared to play a role in the harrowing incident.

    It was about 5:45 a.m. Wednesday when Traber was in the passenger seat of his coworker’s car as they drove to work at a utility company in Burbank. They were headed southbound on the 14 Freeway, and driving in the No. 1 lane, when the man on a Harley Davidson-type motorcycle passed them on the left, riding close to the double-yellow lines that separate the general traffic lanes from the HOV lanes.

    About 150 feet ahead was a Nissan sedan driving in the HOV lane, Traber said. Just as the motorcyclist was passing the sedan on the right-hand side, the sedan tried to exit the carpool lane and enter the No. 1 lane. That’s when the car bumped the bike.

    “I’m sure he didn’t see the motorcyclist,” Traber said of the driver. “He scared the living daylights out of the motorcyclist. He almost went down. That guy can really handle his bike.”

    Traber said that after the motorcyclist regained control, he pulled up to the car’s passenger door and began gesturing at the driver. Traber said he appeared to be saying something too, but Traber couldn’t hear him. He said he figured the biker was “saying something like, hey, you almost hit me! Watch out!”

    Traber said it looked as though the driver was yelling something back at the biker, and that it didn’t help matters, because that’s when the motorcyclist started kicking the passenger door.

    “I said, ‘Wow, man, something’s going to happen. I gotta get this,’” Traber said. “So I grab my phone and started recording.”

    The motorcyclist then swooped behind the sedan, pulled up along the driver side and kicked the car again, Traber said. In a flash, the driver of the sedan swerved hard left and sideswiped the motorcyclist, almost sending him barreling into a concrete freeway divider, he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...623-story.html

    Now, the man who videotaped the automotive spectacle is speaking out about who appeared to be at fault.

    In an interview with The Times on Friday, Chris Traber, 47, of Santa Clarita, said both men appeared to play a role in the harrowing incident.

    It was about 5:45 a.m. Wednesday when Traber was in the passenger seat of his coworker’s car as they drove to work at a utility company in Burbank. They were headed southbound on the 14 Freeway, and driving in the No. 1 lane, when the man on a Harley Davidson-type motorcycle passed them on the left, riding close to the double-yellow lines that separate the general traffic lanes from the HOV lanes.

    About 150 feet ahead was a Nissan sedan driving in the HOV lane, Traber said. Just as the motorcyclist was passing the sedan on the right-hand side, the sedan tried to exit the carpool lane and enter the No. 1 lane. That’s when the car bumped the bike.

    “I’m sure he didn’t see the motorcyclist,” Traber said of the driver. “He scared the living daylights out of the motorcyclist. He almost went down. That guy can really handle his bike.”

    Traber said that after the motorcyclist regained control, he pulled up to the car’s passenger door and began gesturing at the driver. Traber said he appeared to be saying something too, but Traber couldn’t hear him. He said he figured the biker was “saying something like, hey, you almost hit me! Watch out!”

    Traber said it looked as though the driver was yelling something back at the biker, and that it didn’t help matters, because that’s when the motorcyclist started kicking the passenger door.

    “I said, ‘Wow, man, something’s going to happen. I gotta get this,’” Traber said. “So I grab my phone and started recording.”

    The motorcyclist then swooped behind the sedan, pulled up along the driver side and kicked the car again, Traber said. In a flash, the driver of the sedan swerved hard left and sideswiped the motorcyclist, almost sending him barreling into a concrete freeway divider, he said.
    I knew there had to be more to it than the video showed. The cage driver almost killed him twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    I knew there had to be more to it than the video showed. The cage driver almost killed him twice.
    And the biker will end up killed if he keeps stuff up like that.

    Like the old saying, "Get rammed once, shame on you. Get rammed twice, I'm dead."
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    So in summary, we have two individual road rage vehicles.

    These two vehicles have now involved other innocent lives and vehicles due to their overly charged emotional acts of recklessness and carelessness.

    Their are no winners. Everyone looses including the innocent.

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    Like clock work, Every Monday in the morning News paper there will be one or two stores of a Cyclist dyeing in a crash , Just yesterday there were two...Single bike crashes, No witness ....Could be speed, Or they could have been run off the road...Without a witness no one will ever know......In road rage the Cyclist most times loses...Be calm out there things happen fast..
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    Quote Originally Posted by consitter View Post
    And the biker will end up killed if he keeps stuff up like that.

    Like the old saying, "Get rammed once, shame on you. Get rammed twice, I'm dead."
    It is true that the biker was irritated with the sedan driver, as well, the sedan driver was with the cyclist. The cyclist did things that could have easily led to his own demise during the events.

    One thing for certain, considering the recorders testimony, it was an escalating event and the sedan driver had already hit the cyclist prior the video capturing . I believe it is obvious that the kick didn't startle the sedan driver as has been claimed by many in social media, mostly due, to the absence of factual data reported by most news agencies. I believe it is logical and totally correct to say that the sedan driver was fully aware of the cyclists location at all times following the first strike, which could have also been intentional. (note: would that be considered a hit and run? I do believe so)

    Since it was an ongoing event I feel certain that the sedan driver knew exactly where that cyclist was at all times throughout the dispute after hitting him the first time and actually intended to do bodily harm when he suddenly swerved to hit him the second time. I am also convinced that the mostly liberal media enjoys convicting individuals in print to sway public opinion toward their bias thinking with a lot of sensational and nonfactual rhetoric. Seriously, when the sedan hit the cyclist in the first accident why wasn't he startled and lose control, but a kick is being applied as the cause of the major incident following the first contact. Shame on the media!
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    I've said this many times before that if motorcycles were just invented yesterday 'They would be outlawed today and that's the way nonriders feel 😱 So don't expect any simpany from the press 👀 Just saying 📞
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    I've said this many times before that if motorcycles were just invented yesterday 'They would be outlawed today and that's the way nonriders feel 😱 So don't expect any simpany from the press 👀 Just saying 📞
    Clearly, the press throws values out the door from the get go. Selling their spews to gullible people so they can remain afloat displays a total lack of ethics. Expecting any sort of sympathy would be ludicrous to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David357 View Post
    So in summary, we have two individual road rage vehicles.These two vehicles have now involved other innocent lives and vehicles due to their overly charged emotional acts of recklessness and carelessness. Their are no winners. Everyone looses including the innocent.
    That, folks, is the nuts and bolts of this unfortunate event. A few seconds of inattention precipitates an angry response which results in the involvement of an innocent third party.

    Cagers are what they are, and we have to be ever alert when we share the road with them. Undeniably, we riders live on the edge every time we go out. Just as it is our choice to ride, it's up to us to look out for ourselves, our passengers and each other. No one else is gonna do it. We are our own first line of defense, and that line is vigilance.

    That being said, did the cager deserve an ass whippin'? Hell to the yes, bought and paid for. But, if I whipped the asses of all the inattentive cagers I encountered when I went out, I'd spend more time whippin' asses than I would riding. Was kicking a car from a moving bike a smart thing to do? Hell to the no, that's just plain stupid. That rider could've just as easily been the author of his own demise as he was that of the two cagers. There are better ways of handling jackasses like that. As for the innocent third party, because of the actions of the first two parties, he or she becomes the only real victim in this story. The rider and cager #1 could've/should've been charged criminally, not to mention having their guts sued out in civil court.

    'Nuff soap boxin' for me. I'm going for a ride.

    On a side note, if I were so inclined as to kick a moving car from my ride, I'd have to stop and get off to do it. Wouldn't that be a neat trick on the interstate!

    PEACE and ride safe!​
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    What we did not see is what happened before the camera was turned on. The motorcyclist didn't just decide to go kick the guy's door, unprovoked. I think it was a reaction to something the driver did that we did not see, albeit a reckless and stupid reaction that could have easily gotten him killed. Never pick a fight with a po'd guy in a 4000 lb battering ram.
    Not taking sides but this is true these videos always seem to start after bad things begin to happen. Cops seem to feel the brunt of these partial videos the most. The public then forms opinions based on half the story.



    If you study this video as the biker was kicking the car was swerving into him so the car driver who then lost control seems to have sealed his own fate. But that's just half the story.

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