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    I have a 2006 Goldwing trike with a csc kit. I recently purchased a nomad trailer to pull behind. The problem is the brake lights don't work on the trailer, It has the flat 4 wire connection and plugs end to the wire from the trike. Tail lights work, and both signal lights work, but when you apply the brakes there is no current coming from the trike to turn on the brake lights. The brake light and turn signals are all in one light on the trailer, not like the separate lights on the trike.Do I need a special plug adapter or maybe my trike was wired correctly at time of conversion. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Hogfan....

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    The 4 wires should be

    1. ground (white wire)

    2. running lights (brown wire)

    3. left turn and stop (yellow wire)

    4. right turn and stop (green wire)

    Have you checked to see if you get voltage from the bike when you step on the brakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRR View Post
    The 4 wires shou1. ground (white wire)

    2. running lights (brown wire)

    3. left turn and stop (yellow wire)

    4. right turn and stop (green wire)

    Have you checked to see if you get voltage from the bike when you step on the brakes?
    Yes i have checked, there is no voltage coming from the bike when you apply the brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfan View Post
    Yes i have checked, there is no voltage coming from the bike when you apply the brakes.
    Ok.

    I'm not familiar with the CSC conversion wiring. Hopefully someone has a wiring diagram they can share or maybe CSC can send you one.

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    I think it depends on the isolator kit purchased for your Wing on weather it can be a 4 pin or a 5 pin. To test, take a test light and see if the wires coming to the trailer connector from the Wings operate as described above.

    OH ... I see you have already done that. That probably means that a 5 pin isolator kit is needed. I always order mine from here. Because you have trike, it will probably not be plug-n-play.

    If someone else uses a 4-pin, and has both turns and brake lights that work correctly, please let me know.
    Please keep in mind that anytime I share or give advice about a motorcycle, unless I state otherwise, I am always referring to GL1800's and no other.

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    It looks like CSC uses a 5 wire, so (as Greg said), you probably need a 5 wire to 4 wire kit.

    The CSC has a wiring diagram at

    http://californiasidecar.com/pdf/TRA..._SCHEMATIC.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogfan View Post
    I have a 2006 Goldwing trike with a csc kit. I recently purchased a nomad trailer to pull behind. The problem is the brake lights don't work on the trailer, It has the flat 4 wire connection and plugs end to the wire from the trike. Tail lights work, and both signal lights work, but when you apply the brakes there is no current coming from the trike to turn on the brake lights. The brake light and turn signals are all in one light on the trailer, not like the separate lights on the trike.Do I need a special plug adapter or maybe my trike was wired correctly at time of conversion. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Hogfan....
    Back in 2000 (17 years ago) I had the same problem. The trailer work well behind the family car but not the trike. A friend recommended I add separate turn signals and go with a five pin connection. I did as he suggested and it worked. Haven't had a problem since.

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    +1 on the 5 wire converter

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    What others are saying is what I thought. The trailer must have separate brake and turn signal bulbs with a 5 wire plug. The CSC above also supports that. 5 wires are required for trailer wiring, and a 6th wire is used for an interior light.

    Here is what makes a GL1800 different then a car. On a car, in its turn signal switch not only turns a turn signal on, but it turns the brake light on that side off. Our turn signal switch does not have that function, thus on a GL1800 all turn bulbs and brake light bulbs run on a separate circute.
    Please keep in mind that anytime I share or give advice about a motorcycle, unless I state otherwise, I am always referring to GL1800's and no other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWingrGreg View Post
    What others are saying is what I thought. The trailer must have separate brake and turn signal bulbs with a 5 wire plug. The CSC above also supports that. 5 wires are required for trailer wiring, and a 6th wire is used for an interior light.

    Here is what makes a GL1800 different then a car. On a car, in its turn signal switch not only turns a turn signal on, but it turns the brake light on that side off. Our turn signal switch does not have that function, thus on a GL1800 all turn bulbs and brake light bulbs run on a separate circute.
    You are correct, after further investigation the wire from the trike is a 6 post, top row has 4 wires and the second row has 2, the 4 wire connection will plug into the top row, but the brake lite is one on the second row. Thanks for your help

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