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    Default SS tire balance beads?

    Looking for opinions on tire balance beads-in reasearching the options, the stainless steel beads look like they might hold up better than glassbeads. Any opinions would be appreciated and thanks!

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Get some small balls from a bearing suply company and see what happens

    I don't think it will work, that just my opinien.

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Quote Originally Posted by saab9k View Post
    Get some small balls from a bearing suply company and see what happens

    I don't think it will work, that just my opinien.
    But I want my balls to be teflon coated!

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    I've used the ceremic beads for 3 years now, in the tri-glide, both trailers and the rzr. When I get new tries for the truck next fall I will use them. I got 22 thousand miles on the trike front tire and probably would have got another 2 or so but I was going on an extended trip and didn't want to chance it. On my 7 x 12 flatbed I had a vibration at 40 mph, went through all the checks and everything was ok, installed the beads and the vibration went away. Had the same problem on the 7 x 12 tandem v-nose only at towing speeds 55 - 60, pulled the wheel weights off, installed the beads and now no problem loaded or empty.

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Go with the ceramic, they are only way to go. I've used the power, it works till you get moisture when adding air, then it gets abrasive and wears the tire out from the inside. I think that the SS balls would do the same, only because I've not seen them teflon coated and I doubt that the Teflon would hold up over time.
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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    I have the beads on my front MPA (reverse mounted) and they are great. My Goldwing only shop advise I use them.

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    Go with the ceramic, they are only way to go. I've used the power, it works till you get moisture when adding air, then it gets abrasive and wears the tire out from the inside. I think that the SS balls would do the same, only because I've not seen them teflon coated and I doubt that the Teflon would hold up over time.
    INTERESTING.....the mfg of the SS beads (teflon coated) says tat the ceramic beads shear off after time, and the jagged edjes create wear inside the tire. They claim the SS beads don't shear off.

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Maybe somebody two wheeler or trike owner will chime in with results of wear on the beads after 30,000 miles or when the tire was replaced. That would be proof of how the beads stood up after long wear. I would love to SEE proof, not hearsay.
    Let's hope somebody has that info!

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Here's another option Centramatic is making balancers for certain model trikes. I'm not sure which, but they sponsor a show weekly on Sirius/XM. They mount outside the wheel.
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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Exactly what I was hoping for Rosy.

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    I've used the ceremic beads for 3 years now, in the tri-glide, both trailers and the rzr. When I get new tries for the truck next fall I will use them. I got 22 thousand miles on the trike front tire and probably would have got another 2 or so but I was going on an extended trip and didn't want to chance it. On my 7 x 12 flatbed I had a vibration at 40 mph, went through all the checks and everything was ok, installed the beads and the vibration went away. Had the same problem on the 7 x 12 tandem v-nose only at towing speeds 55 - 60, pulled the wheel weights off, installed the beads and now no problem loaded or empty.
    Bruce,
    Have you taken a tire apart to see what the beads look like after long wear? If you did were the beads whole or broken, like one manufacturer said they would be after prolong use.
    Thanks for the input!

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    took the beads out of my worn out tires and put them in the new ones, they looked fine , and are still performing well.

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Don't have the beads in trike tires, but have a 20' tandem trailer that had vibration, installed the recommended glass beads in all four tires and the vibration is gone and the trailer pulls great.
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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Quote Originally Posted by rustic bob View Post
    took the beads out of my worn out tires and put them in the new ones, they looked fine , and are still performing well.
    rustic bob,
    About how many miles do you think you had on the tires when you looked at the beads before mounting your new tire? Did you noticed the inside of your used tire, was it cut like the other manufacturer said it would be when the ceramic beads get old?
    I think this is the first report on "used" beads that I have read. Hopefully some other riders will chime in and tell their story to see which manufacturer is correct.
    Thanks for providing this info rustic bob.

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    PS. I will send Venco Wings (my Goldwing only shop) in NH an e-mail and ask Jim what he has seem when replacing the ceramic beads.
    Last edited by Rosy; 01-18-2013 at 06:10 AM. Reason: more info

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosy View Post
    rustic bob,
    About how many miles do you think you had on the tires when you looked at the beads before mounting your new tire? Did you noticed the inside of your used tire, was it cut like the other manufacturer said it would be when the ceramic beads get old?
    I think this is the first report on "used" beads that I have read. Hopefully some other riders will chime in and tell their story to see which manufacturer is correct.
    Thanks for providing this info rustic bob.

    Regards,

    Rosy
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    PS. I will send Venco Wings (my Goldwing only shop) in NH an e-mail and ask Jim what he has seem when replacing the ceramic beads.
    I've used Dyna-Beads (cermaic) for several years now. I to harvest and reuse the beads when I can get the tire people to remember.... Other then being a bit dirty the beads were just fine. Once I actually cut the face out of a front tire to save the beads. The inside of the tire looked just like any other tire.
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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    Gold Rush,

    Thank you very much for this information. I just don't understand why manufacturers make such statements. I guess they want to promote their products and maybe in some cases they do break into shards, but why not say so.

    Regards,

    Rosy
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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    The ceramic balancing beads have been used for years and millions of miles in semi trucks. I've had great success with them when my Wing was bike. Now I use centramatics on the front wheel because I have to change tires so frequently since I wear them down quickly in the Arkansas twisties.

    My ST1300 had the beads installed with new tires and ride is velvet at any speed.

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    I can't stand the thought of anything rattling around inside my tires. I thought the standard wheel weights were fine. Then I had all this SS money laying around so I thought I'd use it to to buy the Centramatic system.

    To tell the gods honest truth, I can't really tell the difference between the wheel weights and the Centramatic, but I don't havt any ugly weights on the wheels.

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    GaryD,
    I'll tell you what, in a few miles let me know how the cupping and wear is with the new weights. I know at first the balancing seemed the same, but as I look at the tires with my ceramic beads, wow, no sign of cupping and the wear, what wear?!
    So, I have written down at what milage the MPA front was put on and I will see what it looks like after a few thousand miles. According to other web sites and this one, milage should be a whole lot better.

    Regards,

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    Default Re: SS tire balance beads?

    I have a reply from Venco Wings, Jim says he has never seen the ceramic beads shard. He also stated the other company is trying to get and edge because they cost 4 X as much. That would explain why they are saying the ceramic beads break into shards.
    So, we have one dealer who says ceramic beads are OK to use.
    Is there anyone else on the TT site who has ceramic beads balancing their tires?
    Thanks.

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