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[QUOTE=Tucci;680661]Does the tank need to be raised to change front plug wire[/QUOTE]
Tucci, I've never changed plug wires on a twin cam. On the M8, the 4 wires are tie wrapped to the frame at various locations.
You have to remove the tank to do it properly.
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Wires
Jack/Michael thanks. On the 15 fw, is changing out the wires worth the hassle. I was only going to do plugs. 26,000 on odom
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[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;680665]To make changing the wires easier pulling the tank is a plus, at least on my Freewheeler it made it easier
Not a hard job to pull the tank;)[/QUOTE]
What is the trick on detaching the gas line. I push up on the collar and the gas line will not come loose. Do I rotate the collar until it clicks than push or what?
I had this tank off before but I be damn if I remember how removed the gas line!
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[QUOTE=nucseal;680690]What is the trick on detaching the gas line. I push up on the collar and the gas line will not come loose. Do I rotate the collar until it clicks than push or what?
I had this tank off before but I be damn if I remember how removed the gas line![/QUOTE]
Lift up on the collar and pull down on the plastic line, they are a tight fit
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I put a rag behind the fuel line quick disconnect & spayed a shot of silicone on it. They can get a little crusty after sitting a few years.
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[QUOTE=Tucci;680684]Jack/Michael thanks. On the 15 fw, is changing out the wires worth the hassle. I was only going to do plugs. 26,000 on odom[/QUOTE]
After what I learned recently, I would. You have 26,000 miles on wires that were most likely out of spec. in the 1st. place.
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[QUOTE=Tucci;680684]Jack/Michael thanks. On the 15 fw, is changing out the wires worth the hassle. I was only going to do plugs. 26,000 on odom[/QUOTE]
Joe, if you buy good wires and route them good you will be money ahead;)
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[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;680691]Lift up on the collar and pull down on the plastic line, they are a tight fit[/QUOTE]
Tried that. Didn't want to budge. If tried it on a friends bike and had the same problem. Has to be something I am doing wrong. Scratching my head on this one and frustrated.
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[QUOTE=nucseal;680714]Tried that. Didn't want to budge. If tried it on a friends bike and had the same problem. Has to be something I am doing wrong. Scratching my on this one and frustrated.[/QUOTE]
Try a shot of silicone lube, rotate the plastic line a bit while pulling down
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[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;680715]Try a shot of silicone lube, rotate the plastic line a bit while pulling down[/QUOTE]
And pull straight down from the quick release. Even a bit of an angle on the pulling down will bind it up.
Kevin
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Silicone
[QUOTE=MDO;680698]I put a rag behind the fuel line quick disconnect & spayed a shot of silicone on it. They can get a little crusty after sitting a few years.[/QUOTE]
Nice tip about the silicone. I was having a tough time moving the chrome fitting. Sprayed it, rotated several times, it lifted up and the hose just about fell off!
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[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;680715]Try a shot of silicone lube, rotate the plastic line a bit while pulling down[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DK Custom Products;680779]And pull straight down from the quick release. Even a bit of an angle on the pulling down will bind it up.
Kevin[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys. Will try that once I get back in town! Am out of town for the next week.
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Dual plug
On the 2015 Freewheeler, does the tank need to be removed or is there enough room to change front wire by loosening the front and rear mounting bolts
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[QUOTE=Tucci;680840]On the 2015 Freewheeler, does the tank need to be removed or is there enough room to change front wire by loosening the front and rear mounting bolts[/QUOTE]
No removal needed on my 15 Freewheeler
The 17 M8 it is a must
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Tank removal
[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;680860]No removal needed on my 15 Freewheeler
The 17 M8 it is a must[/QUOTE]
Jack, your are fountain of knowledge! Now one more question. You said you used hd plugs. Regular 6r12 or did you go with the screaming eagle 6r12g
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[QUOTE=Tucci;680863]Jack, your are fountain of knowledge! Now one more question. You said you used hd plugs. Regular 6r12 or did you go with the screaming eagle 6r12g[/QUOTE]
Stick with stock plugs
The reason I say this is
1. your TC engine has Delphi Ion Sensing designed into the ECM
2. changing to a plug with a different resistance will cause the ECM to read this signal as much as being out of spec, this could cause timing issues and up to including a trouble code
3. stock plugs are cheaper and your engine was designed to run with them
I have tested and run many plugs on many HD engines, I always come back to stock
Read here
[url]https://www.triketalk.com/forum/threads/45915-Harley-Ion-Sensing[/url]
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Ion
[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;680875]Stick with stock plugs
The reason I say this is
1. your TC engine has Delphi Ion Sensing designed into the ECM
2. changing to a plug with a different resistance will cause the ECM to read this signal as much as being out of spec, this could cause timing issues and up to including a trouble code
3. stock plugs are cheaper and your engine was designed to run with them
I have tested and run many plugs on many HD engines, I always come back to stock
Read here
[url]https://www.triketalk.com/forum/threads/45915-Harley-Ion-Sensing[/url][/QUOTE]
Completely mind boggling. I'm coming from the stage coach era into total computerized, concerning engines. Without someone with your experience on this site i could very well see a massive amount of money being wasted on repairs/shop hours on simple things like this(spark plugs etc)
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[QUOTE=Tucci;680863]Jack, your are fountain of knowledge! Now one more question. You said you used hd plugs. Regular 6r12 or did you go with the screaming eagle 6r12g[/QUOTE]
Tucci, I stayed with the stock plugs on my M8(6R10) After 2 years, they looked very good and all 4 were identical.
With my 10% Veterans discount at my dealer, they were $19 & change for 4. I can handle that every few years.:cool:
I was gonna try NGK, but I ended up getting the wrong tip & it was a big hassle that was not worth it to save $8.
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Ion research
[QUOTE=MDO;680881]Tucci, I stayed with the stock plugs on my M8(6R10) After 2 years, they looked very good and all 4 were identical.
With my 10% Veterans discount at my dealer, they were $19 & change for 4. I can handle that every few years.:cool:
I was gonna try NGK, but I ended up getting the wrong tip & it was a big hassle that was not worth it to save $8.[/QUOTE]
The site Jack referenced was an eye opener in that ,one "small" variable in the electrical/ignition system on the newer engines can cause an untold amount of problems. And i'm sure you know, when it comes to electrical gremlins you're in limbo