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[QUOTE=Road couch rider;915994]I can't believe HD would replace the hard pan rod after the bike is out of warranty. That happens in April 2023 so I probably won't be able to get enough miles on it to wear out the next one. I am itching to get out already as I got the stage 1 upgrade just before snow hit and only got to ride 30-35 miles. I can't wait for spring![/QUOTE]
Have that converstion with your dealer, find out what the warranty period is, get it in writting
HD knows this is a high wear item, that said get it in writting
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This gives me an idea, as soon as I get my bike back. I will check my panhard rod and if it has no slop, I will remove it and build a jig. That way I can rebuild it when it does go bad, along with all my buddies.
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Can anyone give me the size of the heim joints needed?
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[QUOTE=Rogue1;916064]Can anyone give me the size of the heim joints needed?[/QUOTE]
Both are right hand thread from what I gather.
QSC XMR-8, 1/2 X 1/2-20 Chromoly Teflon Kevlar Male RH Rod End
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So I just got my tike back yesterday. The service manager had multiple discussions with the MoCo about the heim joint ssue. He said that 2020 trikes had a nylon washer on both ends of the rod. In 2021 and later models the engineers decided to eliminate those washers. I can't figure out how a nylon washer would keep the heims from wearing out but I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed! He says he thinks all 2021 and later trikes will have that issue. He also was willing to bet that 2024 will be sporting 2 ”extra" nylon washers. Apparently the MoCo was not aware of the problem until my machine? I am skeptical about having no more problems but I will find out.
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[QUOTE=Road couch rider;916290]So I just got my tike back yesterday. The service manager had multiple discussions with the MoCo about the heim joint ssue. He said that 2020 trikes had a nylon washer on both ends of the rod. In 2021 and later models the engineers decided to eliminate those washers. I can't figure out how a nylon washer would keep the heims from wearing out but I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed! He says he thinks all 2021 and later trikes will have that issue. He also was willing to bet that 2024 will be sporting 2 ”extra" nylon washers. Apparently the MoCo was not aware of the problem until my machine? I am skeptical about having no more problems but I will find out.[/QUOTE]
Do you know if the MOCO authorized the dealer to put the 2 nylon washers on your Panhard rod?
Yep sure enough, there is a difference to the mounting hardware between the 2020 and 2021. Mine is a 2019 so it still has the washers. Going to have to check it anyhow for wear.
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[QUOTE=Road couch rider;916290]So I just got my tike back yesterday. The service manager had multiple discussions with the MoCo about the heim joint ssue. He said that 2020 trikes had a nylon washer on both ends of the rod. In 2021 and later models the engineers decided to eliminate those washers. I can't figure out how a nylon washer would keep the heims from wearing out but I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed! He says he thinks all 2021 and later trikes will have that issue. He also was willing to bet that 2024 will be sporting 2 ”extra" nylon washers. Apparently the MoCo was not aware of the problem until my machine? I am skeptical about having no more problems but I will find out.[/QUOTE] OK enough of this bullshit. The joints HD are using are dog crap ok? I wont stand for having what little intelligence I have being insulted by some kid ( thats right)at a dealership. Nylon washer or no- they are not the cause one way or the other.
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Bottom line, will replacing the factory heim joints fix the problem?
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[QUOTE=Olddog;916337]Bottom line, will replacing the factory heim joints fix the problem?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but it is a high wear item
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[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;916339]Yes, but it is a high wear item[/QUOTE]
I should have been more direct with my question. Would better quality heim replacements increase longevity. Thanks