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As i take my old Harley out for its 6th season it has crossed my mind about rear end service?
I have the solid axle kit i installed in the spring of 2013 and it is grease filled.
I cant seem to remember if there is a service interval on that grease in the rear end and if their is please give me PROCEDURE for changing out, as well as lube amount,type,name etc.
I have had no trouble with it, I just honestly cant remember? :gah:
Looks like gear oil vs grease...
Nevermind, it was an indy vs solid I was looking at...:blush:
To the best of my recollection the belt drive champion straight axle filled with grease didn't really call for service unless a seal blew out or something?
Hard for me to accept?
Is there a champion tech out there?
I'm not familiar with the engineering of the Champion solid axles, but [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]I envision a double pillow block assy. of some type that would likely need grease/lubrication periodically.[/FONT][/COLOR] Are there any zerk fittings on it?
If so, I'd try to repack the mechanical assembly with as much fresh grease that it will take.
Short of tearing it down to repack the parts with grease by hand, you might not have any other options?
6 years and however many miles is quite awhile to go without maintenance, (in my opinion only)...:Shrug:
[QUOTE=pcombe;574652]To the best of my recollection the belt drive champion straight axle filled with grease didn't really call for service unless a seal blew out or something?
Hard for me to accept?
Is there a champion tech out there?[/QUOTE]
That is correct. No service required unless it has leaked.
Paul, here is 1 of your old posts
It looks to me the rear end is factory packed with hard grease the same as garden tractors
04-28-2015, 08:03 PM
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[B]Taken from champion website, check out item # 4
TRIKE CONVERSION KIT
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]HARLEY-DAVIDSON
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[/B][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][B]FLH/FLT & SOFTAIL (FLST)
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[SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Page 1 of 2 Revision 12 November 2008
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][B][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]Owner’s Maintenance Notes
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]1.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Tire Pressure and Rotation[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Keep the nominal tire pressure at about 20-25psig. It is not necessary to periodically rotate the trike tires unless you
experience unusual tire wear.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]2.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Bearing Lubrication[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Your Swing Arm, external differential and axle bearings are sealed and do not require greasing. However, should you
experience unusual differential or axle bearing noise you should take your trike to a Champion Trike Dealer or to your
motorcycle mechanic for a checkup.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]3.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Body Lubrication[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]There are no grease fittings on the trike body and no required body lubrication points.
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[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman] [FONT=arial black][SIZE=2]4.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=impact][COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=3][B]Differential lubrication[/B].
[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=impact][COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=3]Your differential is a sealed unit and comes filled with high-pressure grease.
No maintenance is required.
[/SIZE][/COLOR]
[/FONT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]5.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Brakes[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Check your brake system fluid level every 3,000 miles and top-off as necessary. Inspect rear disc brake pads every 10,000
miles and replace as necessary. Pads are Volkswagen Part # D101P
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]6.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Drive Train[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Inspect your drive belt as recommended in your motorcycle Owner’s Manual. When properly tensioned after the trike
conversion, the belt should “deflect” about 1/2 to 5/8 inches when pressed with a force of 10 pounds. Do not use
commercial belt dressing compounds on the belt: these compounds are designed for friction, not toothed, belts and can
collect dirt and sand.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]7.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Suspension System.[/FONT][/B]
[B][FONT=Times New Roman]FLH/FLT
[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]The suspension system retains your two OEM shocks and is designed to give you the best ride with a load[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]of no more than 500 pounds (passengers plus cargo plus trailer tongue weight). Keep the air pressure in the shocks in the
range of 30-70 psig:
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Softail (FLST)
[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]The suspension system retains your single OEM shock and adds two coil-over “helper” mechanical[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]shocks. The system is designed to give you the best ride with a load of no more than 500 pounds (passengers plus cargo
plus trailer tongue weight).
There is a pre-load adjuster ring on each new shock that is factory-set at the “lowest” setting,
for the softest ride. Changing this setting will result in a stiffer ride.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]8.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]EZ-Steer (rake kit)[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]If your trike is equipped with Champion’s EZ-Steer, the bearings are a wear item. You should follow your motorcycle
manufacturer’s recommended front-end triple-tree maintenance requirements. Generally these call for an initial service at
1,000 miles followed by periodic maintenance at 10,000 mile intervals.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]9.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Electrical[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]:[/FONT]
[B][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]TRIKE CONVERSION KIT
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]HARLEY-DAVIDSON
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[FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]FLH/FLT & SOFTAIL (FLST)
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]Champion Trikes
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman](800) 875 0949
[URL="http://www.championtrikes.com"]www.championtrikes.com[/URL]
[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Page 2 of 2 Revision 12 November 2008
Your trike is pre-wired for a trailer connection.
The harness is just below the trunk door on the underside of the body. The
wiring is as follows: (Please confirm color coding on your Trike)
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Old Harness New Universal Harness
(From Mid 2007)
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Running lights Confirm by testing BROWN
Brake lights RED RED
Turn signal, right GREEN GREEN
Turn signal, left YELLOW YELLOW
Accessory BLUE BLUE
Ground Confirm by testing
(White or Black) BLACK
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]10.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Basic Motorcycle Maintenance[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]You should follow the periodic maintenance requirements prescribed in your motorcycle Owner’s Manual for those
components and systems not replaced by the Champion Trike Conversion Kit. Your trike kit should be checked by a
professional trike conversion company every 5,000 miles. Every 10,000 miles you should check the trike kit fasteners for
tightness.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]11.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Specifications[/FONT][/B]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Overall Length: 66”
Body Length: 92”
Wheel Base: 53”
Load Capacity: 620 Lb
Tire Size (15”): 205 / 70 / R15
Wheel Size (15”) (4 lug) Offset +35 mm 15x7JJ 4x4.5 – (Current Installations – Alum Rear End)
Wheel Size (15”) (5 lug) Offset +35 mm 15x7JJ 5x4.5 – (Later Installations – Black Rear End)
Tire Size (16”) 215 / 60 / R16
Wheel Size (16”) (5 lug) Offset +40 mm 16x7JJ 5x4.5 – (First Installations – Black Rear End)
Tire Pressure: 20 PSI
Suspension: See paragraph 7 above
Rear Differential: Custom-built rear differential utilizing OEM drive belt.
Brakes: Original front plus 2 high performance disc brakes at rear.
Storage Capacity: 3.75 cubic feet. 2 full-face helmets and additional storage.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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Thanks for passing my own info back to me amigo, I guess i should believe myself, Yes? :AGGHH:
I swear with my health problems i cant remember things the way i used too? :censored:
[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;574670]Paul, here is 1 of your old posts
It looks to me the rear end is factory packed with hard grease the same as garden tractors
04-28-2015, 08:03 PM
[IMG]https://www.triketalk.com/forum/images/statusicon/user-online.png[/IMG]
[INDENT] [FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3] Champion s/a fluid change.
[B]Taken from champion website, check out item # 4
TRIKE CONVERSION KIT
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]HARLEY-DAVIDSON
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[/B][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][B]FLH/FLT & SOFTAIL (FLST)
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][B]Champion Trikes
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B](800) 875 0949
[/B][B][URL="http://www.championtrikes.com"]www.championtrikes.com[/URL][/B]
[SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Page 1 of 2 Revision 12 November 2008
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][B][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]Owner’s Maintenance Notes
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]1.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Tire Pressure and Rotation[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Keep the nominal tire pressure at about 20-25psig. It is not necessary to periodically rotate the trike tires unless you
experience unusual tire wear.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]2.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Bearing Lubrication[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Your Swing Arm, external differential and axle bearings are sealed and do not require greasing. However, should you
experience unusual differential or axle bearing noise you should take your trike to a Champion Trike Dealer or to your
motorcycle mechanic for a checkup.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]3.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Body Lubrication[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]There are no grease fittings on the trike body and no required body lubrication points.
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[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman] [FONT=arial black][SIZE=2]4.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=impact][COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=3][B]Differential lubrication[/B].
[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=impact][COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=3]Your differential is a sealed unit and comes filled with high-pressure grease.
No maintenance is required.
[/SIZE][/COLOR]
[/FONT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]5.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Brakes[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Check your brake system fluid level every 3,000 miles and top-off as necessary. Inspect rear disc brake pads every 10,000
miles and replace as necessary. Pads are Volkswagen Part # D101P
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]6.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Drive Train[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Inspect your drive belt as recommended in your motorcycle Owner’s Manual. When properly tensioned after the trike
conversion, the belt should “deflect” about 1/2 to 5/8 inches when pressed with a force of 10 pounds. Do not use
commercial belt dressing compounds on the belt: these compounds are designed for friction, not toothed, belts and can
collect dirt and sand.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]7.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Suspension System.[/FONT][/B]
[B][FONT=Times New Roman]FLH/FLT
[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]The suspension system retains your two OEM shocks and is designed to give you the best ride with a load[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]of no more than 500 pounds (passengers plus cargo plus trailer tongue weight). Keep the air pressure in the shocks in the
range of 30-70 psig:
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Softail (FLST)
[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]The suspension system retains your single OEM shock and adds two coil-over “helper” mechanical[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]shocks. The system is designed to give you the best ride with a load of no more than 500 pounds (passengers plus cargo
plus trailer tongue weight).
There is a pre-load adjuster ring on each new shock that is factory-set at the “lowest” setting,
for the softest ride. Changing this setting will result in a stiffer ride.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]8.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]EZ-Steer (rake kit)[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]If your trike is equipped with Champion’s EZ-Steer, the bearings are a wear item. You should follow your motorcycle
manufacturer’s recommended front-end triple-tree maintenance requirements. Generally these call for an initial service at
1,000 miles followed by periodic maintenance at 10,000 mile intervals.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]9.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Electrical[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman]:[/FONT]
[B][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]TRIKE CONVERSION KIT
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]HARLEY-DAVIDSON
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1]®[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]FLH/FLT & SOFTAIL (FLST)
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3][FONT=Times New Roman][size=3]Champion Trikes
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman](800) 875 0949
[URL="http://www.championtrikes.com"]www.championtrikes.com[/URL]
[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Page 2 of 2 Revision 12 November 2008
Your trike is pre-wired for a trailer connection.
The harness is just below the trunk door on the underside of the body. The
wiring is as follows: (Please confirm color coding on your Trike)
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Old Harness New Universal Harness
(From Mid 2007)
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Running lights Confirm by testing BROWN
Brake lights RED RED
Turn signal, right GREEN GREEN
Turn signal, left YELLOW YELLOW
Accessory BLUE BLUE
Ground Confirm by testing
(White or Black) BLACK
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]10.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Basic Motorcycle Maintenance[/FONT][/B][FONT=Times New Roman].[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]You should follow the periodic maintenance requirements prescribed in your motorcycle Owner’s Manual for those
components and systems not replaced by the Champion Trike Conversion Kit. Your trike kit should be checked by a
professional trike conversion company every 5,000 miles. Every 10,000 miles you should check the trike kit fasteners for
tightness.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman]11.
[/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman]Specifications[/FONT][/B]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Overall Length: 66”
Body Length: 92”
Wheel Base: 53”
Load Capacity: 620 Lb
Tire Size (15”): 205 / 70 / R15
Wheel Size (15”) (4 lug) Offset +35 mm 15x7JJ 4x4.5 – (Current Installations – Alum Rear End)
Wheel Size (15”) (5 lug) Offset +35 mm 15x7JJ 5x4.5 – (Later Installations – Black Rear End)
Tire Size (16”) 215 / 60 / R16
Wheel Size (16”) (5 lug) Offset +40 mm 16x7JJ 5x4.5 – (First Installations – Black Rear End)
Tire Pressure: 20 PSI
Suspension: See paragraph 7 above
Rear Differential: Custom-built rear differential utilizing OEM drive belt.
Brakes: Original front plus 2 high performance disc brakes at rear.
Storage Capacity: 3.75 cubic feet. 2 full-face helmets and additional storage.
[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
[/INDENT]
[INDENT][FONT=arial black]Enjoy life now!----------IT HAS AN EXPERATION DATE
[/FONT]
[FONT=arial black]1989 HARLEY DAVIDSON TOUR GLIDE ULTRA CHAMPION- A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING-(CUT YOUR WOLF LOOSE!)
the difference between a good trike and a bad one depends entirely on the integrity of it's builder!
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[QUOTE=Papa Zook;574669]That is correct. No service required unless it has leaked.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for looking out for me again Randy.
I'm ready for spring, begining to feel better just for thinking about hitting the highway. :Coffee: