Need help ID'ing this VW trike-

Need help ID'ing this trike - Just purchased, note the custom gas tank and fiberglass fairing - No identifying marks that I can find.

Searched the 'net for a few hours - couldn't find anything similar.

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[QUOTE=tha510;836368]Need help ID'ing this trike - Just purchased, note the custom gas tank and fiberglass fairing - No identifying marks that I can find.

Searched the 'net for a few hours - couldn't find anything similar.

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Jimmy welcome to Trike Talk can’t help you with the Trike you have maybe somebody will chime in soon with some info..

Never seen one like that before. I suspect that it is a "Home Built" or "One Off" design based on the Kell kit from the early 70's. Compare the rear frame / suspension from ad to what you have. The seat section was probably pulled off a mold made from one of the Roth styled bodies like Stires and Wilmac.

Please start a build thread as you get this back on the road....Pictures, we LOVE pictures!!!

Lots of VW trike expertise on this forum and we're happy to share.

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Hi and thanks !

I used to work as the assistant manager of a VW buggy & high perf shop here in California, we did vintage restorations, dune buggy, 1/4 mile, formula Vee, kit cars - thought I had seen it all until this one -

anyway, I just picked it up last night, I will go though it and post pics, supposedly it was running, but just sitting for a long time.

[QUOTE=vwbug72501;836385]Never seen one like that before. I suspect that it is a "Home Built" or "One Off" design based on the Kell kit from the early 70's. Compare the rear frame / suspension from ad to what you have. The seat section was probably pulled off a mold made from one of the Roth styled bodies like Stires and Wilmac.

Please start a build thread as you get this back on the road....Pictures, we LOVE pictures!!!

Lots of VW trike expertise on this forum and we're happy to share.

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Welcome Jimmy I agree with others looks custom. What is it registered/titled as?

Welcome to Trike Talk Jimmy!

:welcome:to Trike Talk

If I had to guess I bet that was home made some where in Ca during the late dune buggy craze;)

Looks like a fun project for you

[QUOTE=Gorilla;836390]Welcome Jimmy I agree with others looks custom. What is it registered/titled as?[/QUOTE]

Never registered or titled, no vin, etc. I will present it to the DMV as a fresh build.

I do not know of any kit or aftermarket builder that did not use the vw rear suspension.

So I don't think it is a kit or bought design.

Also doubt it was by a builder....as they would have made an attempt at getting the front end geometry right.

Probably a home built. But in my opinion that is the best kind. Make it right and make it yours.

[QUOTE=Jack Klarich;836395]:welcome:to Trike Talk

If I had to guess I bet that was home made some where in Ca during the late dune buggy craze;)

Looks like a fun project for you[/QUOTE]

I had a Meyers Manx Dune buggy that I am pretty sure was built by the Manson Family - ( it was cursed ! )

some more pics -

(Anyone recognize the make/model of the front forks ? )

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still more pics -

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The quality and fitment of the brackets, etc. make me think that this is probably a production prototype that didn't make the cut. There were a lot of trike /dune buggy "manufacturers" that came and went during the 70's.

If you look closely at the front wheel you will probably be able to find some identifying logos/numbers that will help you figure out what it came from.

Yep......odd

And I am a connoisseur of odd......and don't know what it is.

I don't know of any builder that did not use the vw rear suspension.

And then those Morse cables.....

But then the varying thickness of the fiberglass look rough and hand made...

So anyway.

The front end looks Kawasaki. But lots of bikes of that era had the same wheel design.

Is it enkie?

A mix of drive train......a single port with a dog house?....not a normal sight. Then on a swing axle.

But in the end it don't really matter who made it....because you won't ever get parts from them anyway.

Make it into what you want....it seems you know your way around the vw parts. Get your front end geometry right and have fun with it.

I am just mostly curious about the maker- My guess it is a very low production, the fiberglass is about 3/8 to 1/2 inch thick, ( thicker in some spots) it is really solid. The frame has dressed welds and gussets, and NO re-welding, I've worked on film vehicles, parade vehicles, Production car prototypes ( I was on the design team for the 2001 Qvale Mangusta) and we were always making changes as we build, Even with CAD-created designs.

Maybe I secretly want it to be one of George Barris or Dean Jeffries "forgotten" builds.

I do know VW's, but not bikes - I will read up on steering geometry and see what I need to do.

Anyway thanks for all great comments, I am planning on taking this (on a trailer ) to an event in the desert in September so I have my work cut out for me.

Well it does not have to be factory made to fit and look slick.

Mine is completely one off self built.

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[QUOTE=DeathBySnuSnu;836770]Well it does not have to be factory made to fit and look slick.

Mine is completely one off self built.

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Very nice - reminds me of the "Amazonia" motorcycle ( 2 wheel motorcycle kit with mid VW engine) My buddy built this a few years ago, the only bike i've worked with and it has a mid-engine BMW 2 liter ( from a 320D ) that runs on vegetable oil- ( [url]http://michaelsturtz.com/die-moto/[/url] )

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[QUOTE=vwbug72501;836738]The quality and fitment of the brackets, etc. make me think that this is probably a production prototype that didn't make the cut. There were a lot of trike /dune buggy "manufacturers" that came and went during the 70's.[/QUOTE]

I actually think that just might be the case - while working on it I discovered that the Brake backing plates, the coil-over shocks, the axle tubes, and the shock/backing plate mounting horns are all CHROME PLATED. Then sometime later painted over with black spray paint.

I think the suspension setup was borrowed from a Formula Vee. Someone spent a lot of money chroming all the suspension parts, ( or they worked at a chrome shop)

Anyway, I am starting a separate build thread - I have 3 months before the event that this is being prepped for, so I have some work to do. It's going to be a "Mad Max" style Rat-bike, for the "Wasteland Weekend" event in Mojave CA. this September.