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SE tuner questions
So I have the SE tuner for the trike. The old owner had it tuned before I got it. I'm a novice with the tuner software. I folliwed a thread that explained how to use the tuner.*
I know the previous owner loaded a map not sure whether it was a dyno run or smart tune.
I have since decatted, added a kn with a freer flowing ac cover and added the tts100
What I'm trying to figure out is can I just run the record on the vci and load a smart tune, or do I have to load a canned map first. I don't have a copy of the map that the previous owner loaded and looking through the map list didn't see anything that was clear to what I got.*
Not really sure how to proceed here.
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The VCI should contain the last map loaded, you can download this map from the VCI and see what they did. Your local dealer should also have a training CD which isn't that expensive, the CD should answer a bunch of questions.
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[QUOTE=msocko3;289478]The VCI should contain the last map loaded, you can download this map from the VCI and see what they did. Your local dealer should also have a training CD which isn't that expensive, the CD should answer a bunch of questions.[/QUOTE]
I'll check the vci but I think everything was erased when an update occurred. I couldn't do anything in the software until the update was loaded.*
I followed the thread on one of the Harley forums for se tuner for dummies. I'm good until I try and find a map to load, can't find anything close.
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[QUOTE=dafoot2;289503]I'll check the vci but I think everything was erased when an update occurred. I couldn't do anything in the software until the update was loaded.*
I followed the thread on one of the Harley forums for se tuner for dummies. I'm good until I try and find a map to load, can't find anything close.[/QUOTE]
As for the map with the TTS-100 cams, I'd choose the map for Stage 2 with the SE255 cams and tune from there.
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[QUOTE=msocko3;289703]As for the map with the TTS-100 cams, I'd choose the map for Stage 2 with the SE255 cams and tune from there.[/QUOTE]
Yea I gave TTS a call and he said the same. Not having much luck when I search through the available maps in the SE program.
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[QUOTE=msocko3;289703]As for the map with the TTS-100 cams, I'd choose the map for Stage 2 with the SE255 cams and tune from there.[/QUOTE]
OK, I need a clarification.
I have the SE Super Tuner Software and map files installed on my PC. In the map files I see two files associated to the SE-255 cam for 2015, Air-Cooled Touring engines:
[TABLE="width: 463"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 2, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 195, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Configuration[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 36, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]CR[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 110, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Cam[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 51, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Head[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 91, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Throttle Body[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 66, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Injector[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 68, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]File Name[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 197, bgcolor: transparent, colspan: 2"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]1800 Stage 1[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, width: 36, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]9.2[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 110, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]SE-255 (Std in CVO)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 51, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]O.E.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 91, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]50mm[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 66, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]4.3 gm/sec[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 68, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]617SEE204[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 197, bgcolor: transparent, colspan: 2"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]1800 Stage 1 w/58mm Throttle Body[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, width: 36, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]9.2[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 110, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]SE-255 (Std in CVO)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 51, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]O.E.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 91, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]58mm[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 66, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]4.3 gm/sec[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 68, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]617SGK202[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
Both appear to be for a 110 cid motor. One with a stock throttle body and the other with a 58mm throttle body. I also see the 9.2 CR parameter - I thought the 2015, 103 motor was 9.7 CR?
So, I assume you are speaking of file "617SEE204" (stock throttle body)?
If this is incorrect, please will someone provide the map file name that is correct.
Thanks,
Springman
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[QUOTE=Springman2007;290226]OK, I need a clarification.
I have the SE Super Tuner Software and map files installed on my PC. In the map files I see two files associated to the SE-255 cam for 2015, Air-Cooled Touring engines:
[TABLE="width: 463"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 2, bgcolor: transparent"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 195, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Configuration[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, width: 36, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]CR[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 110, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Cam[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 51, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Head[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 91, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Throttle Body[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 66, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]Injector[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, width: 68, bgcolor: transparent"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][B]File Name[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 197, bgcolor: transparent, colspan: 2"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]1800 Stage 1[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, width: 36, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]9.2[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 110, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]SE-255 (Std in CVO)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 51, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]O.E.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 91, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]50mm[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 66, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]4.3 gm/sec[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 68, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]617SEE204[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 197, bgcolor: transparent, colspan: 2"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]1800 Stage 1 w/58mm Throttle Body[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, width: 36, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]9.2[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 110, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]SE-255 (Std in CVO)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 51, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]O.E.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 91, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]58mm[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 66, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]4.3 gm/sec[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, width: 68, bgcolor: transparent"][B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000]617SGK202[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
Both appear to be for a 110 cid motor. One with a stock throttle body and the other with a 58mm throttle body. I also see the 9.2 CR parameter - I thought the 2015, 103 motor was 9.7 CR?
So, I assume you are speaking of file "617SEE204" (stock throttle body)?
If this is incorrect, please will someone provide the map file name that is correct.
Thanks,
Springman[/QUOTE]
I wish I could help, I don't have the latest software installed. I know you should be looking for a 1690 engine with 50 mm throttle body and SE255 cams, you need the Stage 2 map. Neither of the 2 maps you are showing will work without a whole lot of tweaking.
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[QUOTE=msocko3;290232]I wish I could help, I don't have the latest software installed. I know you should be looking for a 1690 engine with 50 mm throttle body and SE255 cams, you need the Stage 2 map. Neither of the 2 maps you are showing will work without a whole lot of tweaking.[/QUOTE]
OK, there is this file:
[TABLE="width: 572"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD][B]Configuration[/B]
[/TD]
[TD][B]CR[/B]
[/TD]
[TD][B]Cam[/B]
[/TD]
[TD][B]Head[/B]
[/TD]
[TD][B]Throttle Body[/B]
[/TD]
[TD][B]Injector[/B]
[/TD]
[TD][B]File Name[/B]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2013 Touring, 1690 Stage 2 w/SE-255 Cams
[/TD]
[TD]9.7
[/TD]
[TD]SE-255 (Std in CVO)
[/TD]
[TD]O.E.
[/TD]
[TD]O.E.
[/TD]
[TD]4.3 gm/sec
[/TD]
[TD]044SBN004
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
The file above, "name = 044SBN004" is for a 2013 Touring bike/trike.
The CID is correct for a 2015 FLRT/TG
The CR is correct for a 2015 FLRT/TG
It is for a SE-255 cam set
For stock heads and throttle body (I think they are the same from 2013 to 2015?)
But, I am unsure on the 4.3 injector size (Anyone know the injector size for a stock, 2015 Freewheeler?)
So, would/could I use this map file as a baseline for tuning a TTS-100 cam in a 2015 FLRT?
Springman
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[QUOTE=Springman2007;290236]OK, there is this file:
[TABLE="width: 572"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD][B]Configuration[/B][/TD]
[TD][B]CR[/B][/TD]
[TD][B]Cam[/B][/TD]
[TD][B]Head[/B][/TD]
[TD][B]Throttle Body[/B][/TD]
[TD][B]Injector[/B][/TD]
[TD][B]File Name[/B][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2013 Touring, 1690 Stage 2 w/SE-255 Cams[/TD]
[TD]9.7[/TD]
[TD]SE-255 (Std in CVO)[/TD]
[TD]O.E.[/TD]
[TD]O.E.[/TD]
[TD]4.3 gm/sec[/TD]
[TD]044SBN004[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
The file above, "name = 044SBN004" is for a 2013 Touring bike/trike.
The CID is correct for a 2015 FLRT/TG
The CR is correct for a 2015 FLRT/TG
It is for a SE-255 cam set
For stock heads and throttle body (I think they are the same from 2013 to 2015?)
But, I am unsure on the 4.3 injector size (Anyone know the injector size for a stock, 2015 Freewheeler?)
So, would/could I use this map file as a baseline for tuning a TTS-100 cam in a 2015 FLRT?
Springman[/QUOTE]
Injector size is correct, that map should work since your's isn't liquid cooled. I'm surprised they don't have a 2015 MY touring specific map. Is your software the lastest? I believe you can get the latest software here [URL]http://prosupertuner.harley-davidson.com/SuperTuner.aspx[/URL] by punching in your VCI serial number.
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[QUOTE=msocko3;290308]Injector size is correct, that map should work since your's isn't liquid cooled. I'm surprised they don't have a 2015 MY touring specific map. Is your software the lastest? I believe you can get the latest software here [URL]http://prosupertuner.harley-davidson.com/SuperTuner.aspx[/URL] by punching in your VCI serial number.[/QUOTE]
YEP! This is where I downloaded my current install and map file library from on 4/28/15. The only 2015 Touring files referenced to the SE-255 Cams are for 110 CID, CVO motors.
So, with the injector size confirmed: The initial, baseline map to tune a 2015 FLRT or TG with a TTS-100 cam installed would be the map file: [FONT="Arial Black"][B][COLOR=#000000]044SBN004.dt0[/COLOR][/B][/FONT]
The above mentioned file is actually found in the library map references as for a 2013 Touring model.
Springman