Oil change and overfilled it a touch maybe???

As I have to go through coniptions to jack up my Motor Trike with running boards to change the oil.

I got a tad lazy and just jacked up the front enough to get at the oil filter and the drain plug.

#1 changed it cold.

#2 after I drained it, filled the filter with oil and put it back on.

#3 let the bike down and put in the rest of the 4 quarts.

Started up the engine. Let it run for about 2-3 minutes. No leaks.

Checked the dipstick and its at the top of the cross hatching on it.

I believe its the middle mark on the stick thats the full mark??

If at the bottom its the add mark??

So if Im at the top of it.

Am I horribly over filled that I should take some oil out??

Or am I ok?? The top is the full mark??

I know what over filling say a quart can do but in my case am I ok to ride the trike??

You are correct the middle mark is the fill line. Did you screw the dip stick in? It should be checked just putting it in the opening and setting in the hole unscrewed.

If it were a Harley not to worry.....Just drive it and it will spit out all the extra oil though the air cleaner, ...Honda i'm not sure but if it were mine i would take some oil out, Both you and the Honda will feel better..:Shrug:

[QUOTE=radismukes;607168]You are correct the middle mark is the fill line. Did you screw the dip stick in? It should be checked just putting it in the opening and setting in the hole unscrewed.[/QUOTE]

+1

[QUOTE=rhino 2;607170]If it were a Harley not to worry.....Just drive it and it will spit out all the extra oil though the air cleaner, ...Honda i'm not sure but if it were mine i would take some oil out, Both you and the Honda will feel better..:Shrug:[/QUOTE]

After this is determined. you definitely, need to remove some oil if it is over filled. GL will not handle a overfill of half quart or more.

[QUOTE=nucseal;607213]After this is determined. you definitely, need to remove some oil if it is over filled. GL will not handle a overfill of half quart or more.[/QUOTE]

So being at the top is about half a quart. Wasn't sure. This dipstick being unmarked and all.

Appreciate it.

Thanks all.

No I didn't screw it in just put it in the filler hole and pulled it back out.

Oh well. Time to make a mess.

[QUOTE=JaysGone;607232]So being at the top is about half a quart. Wasn't sure. This dipstick being unmarked and all.

Appreciate it.

Thanks all.

No I didn't screw it in just put it in the filler hole and pulled it back out.

Oh well. Time to make a mess.[/QUOTE]

Go to farm and supply store and get a large syringe, hook a piece of small tubing to it and suck oil out at filler hole. No fuss, no mess. Use a long enough piece of tubing that it cannot accidentally fall done into engine!!!!!

[QUOTE=mhgoldwing;607241]Go to farm and supply store and get a large syringe, hook a piece of small tubing to it and suck oil out at filler hole. No fuss, no mess. Use a long enough piece of tubing that it cannot accidentally fall done into engine!!!!![/QUOTE]

This is what a friend of mine did to his...It worked!!!

Ronnie

As mentioned above by MH...Don't let that tube fall into your engine, Maybe (just a suggestion here) also purchase a small "hose clamp, and tighten the tube onto the syringe, B4, putting tube into motor!!!

I tried to use a piece of quarter inch tubing. Since it didn't fit in the same spot as the dipstick itself.

I pushed it into the filler hole well over a foots worth and then sucked on the hose end.

It pulled up exactly ZERO oil????

I guess I will have to remove the oil filter and hope that it has enough come out there.

I don't wish to pull the drain plug. Measure out what comes and then refill.

I guess I will find out on Saturday..................

What a dumb mistake on my part...........not worth being lazy. There is always a 1st time in 40 years of riding taking a shortcut rarely pays.

Jay, I realized that I made the mistake of jacking up the trike to get the fill pan under and to do the drain plug, duh, I realized the machine is not level and all the oil does not drain, so when I dump in another 4 quarts, minus a tad, I'm in over fill. This had no adverse effect for months on end, but 'ding' the light went off about the over fill. I mean, I never checked the dip stick, just change and and pour in new. There was never any over flow, but I suppose it could have accumulated elsewhere, however, the air filter was pretty clean last change. Go figure.

Heck, if it is a Goldwing, put in 4 quarts and forget it.

[QUOTE=bikerbillone;607732]Jay, I realized that I made the mistake of jacking up the trike to get the fill pan under and to do the drain plug, duh, I realized the machine is not level and all the oil does not drain, so when I dump in another 4 quarts, minus a tad, I'm in over fill. This had no adverse effect for months on end, but 'ding' the light went off about the over fill. I mean, I never checked the dip stick, just change and and pour in new. There was never any over flow, but I suppose it could have accumulated elsewhere, however, the air filter was pretty clean last change. Go figure.[/QUOTE]

I pulled the drain plug and took out about 3/4 of a quart. Put back the plug. Let it run for about 5 minutes. Came back in an hour and it read at the middle line.

I have never checked levels. Just drained it hot and level. Put in 4 quarts and went about my business.

This was the 1st time I did it cold and only jacked up the front a few inches. I can say I wont be doing that again.

Im at 30K miles and haven't even looked at the air filter yet.

Too much trouble to get at it.

But

I guess I will have to check the air filter eventually.....................................Someday.

To me, that dip stick is totally confusing, but I suppose it serves a purpose. Seems I've heard run for five, cool for 3 or 4, then check. Supposedly that gives the top end oil to seep to the pan to give an accurate reading on the stick. I dunno, I'll continue to drain with engine as close to level as possible, give it a few house to drain, and then pour in four quarts, that should work.

[QUOTE=bikerbillone;607877]To me, that dip stick is totally confusing, but I suppose it serves a purpose. Seems I've heard run for five, cool for 3 or 4, then check. Supposedly that gives the top end oil to seep to the pan to give an accurate reading on the stick. I dunno, I'll continue to drain with engine as close to level as possible, give it a few house to drain, and then pour in four quarts, that should work.[/QUOTE]

Your way is my way. Until this time. I jacked up the front just enough to get the pan under the drain plug.

Maybe 2 to 4 inches at most.

So yes the bikes not level. Maybe because I did it cold too. That was enough cold and 4 inches to overfill it.

I should be OK now I guess I will find out if the light goes on today. If it doesn't. I hope Im not back here in another 5K miles asking stupid questions.

Jay, far as I know, there's no penalty here for asking questions, makes for a good read and an opportunity to share.

To make my trike [B]level, and 4in. higher[/B] (when changing oil/filter) I took a 2[B]X[/B]12" board, and cut 6 (six) 12 inches pieces, and screwed two boards on top of each other... (and jack up trike) and then place the boards under each tire, (now bike is still level but it now [B]4 inches higher.[/B].. just perfect to crawl under to service it.... Just a "thought" here for easier servicing. :clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

Ronnie

It doesn't make any difference is the bike/trike is jacked up in the front back, or in the middle. Just make sure it is all drained out, put in 4 quarts, and forget it.

[QUOTE=FRR;607909]It doesn't make any difference is the bike/trike is jacked up in the front back, or in the middle. Just make sure it is all drained out, put in 4 quarts, and forget it.[/QUOTE]

Yep.......Four and done......:D....

[QUOTE=Burnerboy;607890]To make my trike [B]level, and 4in. higher[/B] (when changing oil/filter) I took a 2[B]X[/B]12" board, and cut 6 (six) 12 inches pieces, and screwed two boards on top of each other... (and jack up trike) and then place the boards under each tire, (now bike is still level but it now [B]4 inches higher.[/B].. just perfect to crawl under to service it.... Just a "thought" here for easier servicing. :clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

Ronnie[/QUOTE]

Not a bad idea, where do you place the jack to life the back?

[QUOTE=FRR;607909]It doesn't make any difference is the bike/trike is jacked up in the front back, or in the middle. Just make sure it is all drained out, put in 4 quarts, and forget it.[/QUOTE]

True, but if it's jacked up in front, all the oil will not drain, so gotta drop it down so the thing is level.

YES where and how on a trike.First time try oil change----90 Motor trike-----with running boards

[QUOTE=bikerbillone;607919]True, but if it's jacked up in front, all the oil will not drain, so gotta drop it down so the thing is level.[/QUOTE]

Well, that is a given. That's the reason I said make sure it is all drained out.

Trying to clarify, nothing more nothing less. Sometimes there are misunderstandings.

I posted , but then saw I was on the GL1800. Oops

When we change the oil on our trike we have 2 sets of plastic car ramps (4) total that are the same height. We use three of them and drive the trike up on them all at the same time. Works really slick and you can get at everything and have plenty room for the pan and to work.

Try it and you will like it.

Hmmm, interesting BrokenBack, I run my rears up on ramps, didn't think about the front but not a bad idea, would save manipulating the front, easier oil change for sure...... or getting up under there for whatever. Thanks!

We use the 4 ramps when doing servicing on our Duramax, Honda trike, and also our Polaris General. Only use 3 for the Trike LOL.

Drive all 4 up on them and plenty of room to work underneath!

We ordered ours through NAPA when they were on sale and delivered right to our door.

Slick!

Those half ramps have caught my eye, so shall see how that goes. Seems the car ramps are too high for some reason as I read, not exactly sure why yet.

Just as a side note here ... the GL does have a crank case breather. The drain is located under the left valve cover. Just a clear tube with a cap clamped to it, you might check to see if it's got lots of oil in it. If you didn't run it too long after over filling it, probably not.

The crank case drain is probably one of the most "missed" service items on the Gold Wings. On my 08 trike, I got about an oz of watery oily fluid out of it, pretty sure it had never been drained.

Most people, I'm guilty of this too, that have Gold Wing's, gloss over some of the recommended maintenance. The dang bikes just seem to be bullet proof and last forever. We become complacent and get to the point of "I'll just do regular oil changes and I'm good". Lots more that should be done.

The biggies that get "pushed off" ... air cleaner, crank case breather, brake/clutch fluid flush/replace, valve adjustment and steering head bearing inspect grease.

Disclaimer: Us Harley guys (I go both ways :blush:) tend to get complacent too ... but, the Gold Wings don't seem to care as much ... :D

[QUOTE=FuzzyWuzHe;733537]Just as a side note here ... the GL does have a crank case breather. The drain is located under the left valve cover. Just a clear tube with a cap clamped to it, you might check to see if it's got lots of oil in it. If you didn't run it too long after over filling it, probably not.

The crank case drain is probably one of the most "missed" service items on the Gold Wings. On my 08 trike, I got about an oz of watery oily fluid out of it, pretty sure it had never been drained.

Most people, I'm guilty of this too, that have Gold Wing's, gloss over some of the recommended maintenance. The dang bikes just seem to be bullet proof and last forever. We become complacent and get to the point of "I'll just do regular oil changes and I'm good". Lots more that should be done.

The biggies that get "pushed off" ... air cleaner, crank case breather, brake/clutch fluid flush/replace, valve adjustment and steering head bearing inspect grease.

Disclaimer: Us Harley guys (I go both ways :blush:) tend to get complacent too ... but, the Gold Wings don't seem to care as much ... :D[/QUOTE]

The Harleys have a unique automatic feature which the Wings don't have.....If you should by chance overfill the Harleys crankcase ....It will warn the rider by dripping oil on the riders right calf and boot....:laugh:....