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Voyager kit
I live in Wisconsin and today I was at my DMV to find out if I could get my trike re-licensed. I have feet problems and the state made me take driver ed over again. I am 63 years old but I did it. But they said that I had to take the motorcycle test over as well. My trike is a 91 Gold Wing with the voyager kit. The problem with the state is that my trike has 4 wheels. One front and 3 back. The state says a motorcycle can have 2 wheels or 3wheels. 4 wheels is considered a car!!!! Now what do I do?
So any body here in Wisconsin who have the voyager kit on their bike may have the same problem if they have to re-license the trike. When you think that things can't get worse they do!!!
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Our law says no more than 3 wheels in contact with the ground at one time. this could be a loop hole . If you set the Voyager pre-load back to default setting one wheel will always be off the ground . Almost impossible to ride but will meet the letter of the law.
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The kit is removable. It is an accessory. Therefore, it is not permanently a 4 wheeled vehicle. So, it's a motorcycle.
If you have to-take the kit off-have someone,if you can't, ride it to the BMV-get your plates. Go home and bolt the kit back on.
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[QUOTE=tfdeputydawg;50234]The kit is removable. It is an accessory. Therefore, it is not permanently a 4 wheeled vehicle. So, it's a motorcycle.
If you have to-take the kit off-have someone,if you can't, ride it to the BMV-get your plates. Go home and bolt the kit back on.[/QUOTE]
The problem here is that when a cop pulls up behind you and all four wheels are on the ground, you get a ticket for wrong license plate on bike. You will need a car plate. Also wrong insurance. Needs to be insured as a car. Argue all you want, but the judge has the last word. This is the problem with the voyager kit in several states.
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Sounds like a problem with the state, not the trike. Here in Kansas, I licensed mine as a motorcycle, and they don't ask how many wheels are on the ground.
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If they say it is not a motorcycle but a car then you should be able to ride it with a regular operator's license. You should have a friend that would loan you his scooter to get your motorcycle license. Maybe a dealer you know well would do it.
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[QUOTE=secondroy;55302]If they say it is not a motorcycle but a car then you should be able to ride it with a regular operator's license. You should have a friend that would loan you his scooter to get your motorcycle license. Maybe a dealer you know well would do it.[/QUOTE]
I know this is an old thread but thought I'd add to it a bit. Here in the state of California a trike doesn't need a motorcycle endorsement and can legally be operated with a standard drivers license. But.... a Voyager kit is considered a trailer with a different hitch attachment and you'll need the MC OK on the license since it's still considered a two wheel. The trailer definition was also applied when I added the Voyager to my insurance policy thru Geico. Now.. does this mean that I'd be pulling a set of doubles when adding a regular MC trailer??? I haven't asked Geico.
Thought I'd let sleeping dogs lie.....
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Going thru tolls with the trailer you will pay more than a car.
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In my state it If you make three tracks, you have a trike. Since the motorcycle wheels make one track, and the outrigger makes two more.....we have three tracks and therefor a trike. At least that's what the dmv and the book say. The insurance lists the outrigger kit as an accessory.
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[QUOTE=John Luciano;270771]Going thru tolls with the trailer you will pay more than a car.[/QUOTE]
They stick it to ya around here also. I hate paying twice as much for a tandem axle trailer...they charge by the axle... then they do for the truck. Ends up being triple toll. I don't think there would be a problem with a Voyager kit. The toll booth operator wouldn't know what the 'H' he was looking at...
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Let me ask the obvious question here... Can you suffer thru your feet problems long enough to take your test on 2 wheels??? If you can, problem solved...
Most of these add-on outrigger kits like the Voyager, Tow Pac (what I use) are classified as "an accessory", so there shouldn't be any issues even though there are!!! Leave it to State government to make a simple solution complicated!!! :mad:
Les
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[QUOTE=Condor;270762]I know this is an old thread but thought I'd add to it a bit. Here in the state of California a trike doesn't need a motorcycle endorsement and can legally be operated with a standard drivers license. But.... a Voyager kit is considered a trailer with a different hitch attachment and you'll need the MC OK on the license since it's still considered a two wheel. The trailer definition was also applied when I added the Voyager to my insurance policy thru Geico. Now.. does this mean that I'd be pulling a set of doubles when adding a regular MC trailer??? I haven't asked Geico. Thought I'd let sleeping dogs lie.....[/QUOTE]
Been pondering this for a while and have a note to add about a California Voyager Kit. If it's considered a trailer then it needs to be registered.
CA trailers need to be licensed.
Don't kick the dog.....
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[QUOTE=Condor;270762]I know this is an old thread but thought I'd add to it a bit. Here in the state of California a trike doesn't need a motorcycle endorsement and can legally be operated with a standard drivers license. But.... a Voyager kit is considered a trailer with a different hitch attachment and you'll need the MC OK on the license since it's still considered a two wheel. The trailer definition was also applied when I added the Voyager to my insurance policy thru Geico. Now.. does this mean that I'd be pulling a set of doubles when adding a regular MC trailer??? I haven't asked Geico. Thought I'd let sleeping dogs lie.....[/QUOTE]
My voyager trike was from out of state and I had to take it to the CHP to be inspected and signed off before the DMV would register. The CHP told me I did not need a motorcycle endorsement for the voyager trike as long as I did not ride without the outriggers.
Had DMV paperwork signed off by CHP, went back to DMV and had my MC plates on my bike within 30 minutes.