You can buy 1641 jugs and pistons for less than $200.
They will fit either a 1500 or 1600 case.
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You can buy 1641 jugs and pistons for less than $200.
They will fit either a 1500 or 1600 case.
Just checked (out of curiosity).
cip1 has them for $159.
I have a couple VWs I plan to do this with.
[QUOTE=Jester13;414964]You can buy 1641 jugs and pistons for less than $200.
They will fit either a 1500 or 1600 case.[/QUOTE]
That is very true, however, the 41cc gain really doesn't make all that much of a difference in power.
Really, from 1776 on up with the proper camming and decent heads is really where the Type 1 engines start to shine.
It is worth doing on a stock rebuild anyway.
41cc aint much and it dont require a big retune of the carb jetting.
As far as shine....
I think stroke is what makes the big difference.
A short stroke 2L motor will make the same peak hp on a dyno as a long stroke 2L motor. Displacement is displacment.
But when you drive it on the street it is the long stroke motor that makes the torque. It will put a smile on your face a lot quicker and pull from lower down. Go to the racetrack and there is not much difference.
Repost of the bore and stroke sheet.
64 stroke is the 40hp and older engine.
Everything after the 40hp 1200 is related and parts interchange. Some shouldn't be interchanged.
The stroke from the 1300 to 1600 is the same stock 69mm.
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Piston and cylinder kits come in 3 different pin heights. As in the wrist pin to the top of the piston dimension is defferent.
A stroke p&c kit is stock pin height.
B stroke p&c kit is the stroker pin height.
C stroke p&c kit is for extreme strokes 86 and larger.
You wont see a C kit listed very often unless you like to look around the super high dollar mega race sites where they sell the billet drop cam engine cases and want to run a set of super squishies.
Stroker motor info.
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Every day I anticipate the new installments being collected here for our knowledge library. The deep technical info is amazing and helpful to all levels of trike builders and particularly us VW fanatics. I am considering what contributions I might bring to the table rather than just wait to be spoon-fed the new tech, tech, tech . . . . data. I am pondering a couple of questions as to the plans for this reference collection:
First, is there a plan to organize these tech resources into some cataloged or categorized grouping? That would allow members to access particular areas of interest effectively as their needs dictate. As it grows, we may perhaps could find a way to add search capabilities or other shortcuts.
Second, I think [I][B]. . . Snu's[/B][/I] Title for this thread is prophetic as he presents "tech, tech, tech . . . " and then "So you want to build a trike?". As I read the technical info provided, I am wondering if the two elements might warrant two separate collections this early in the game. The tech thread ongoing is building truckloads of excellent topical tech data. I am thinking (that's where I usually get into trouble) that a second thread could concentrate on data and guidance for building a VW trike from when the little light bulb goes on to the first shakedown cruise and beyond. That thread could look at the diverse levels of tech capabilities that folks have to put together a trike. Perhaps a basic approach to concept, design, fabrication, etc. providing an outline of possibilities and then referring to the tech thread/library for topical areas of the build process.
That plan/layout/build process thread could offer info on alternative approaches and considerations in trike building. Such as a major approach up front as to whether you design around what you want and then go get your parts to accomplish that or do you have a VW that you want to use for your trike. In the latter instance we could provide assistance in how to best utilize what he/she has, while in the previous case (design and then find components to fit) the builder has a broader palette such as build a complete frame (no VW suspension robbed from a car) vs. build a frame using VW suspension components. Even then we could inform the builder about options such as using a Type 3 subframe which is basically a bolt-in rear suspension that could simplify a trike frame.
I am getting too deep into examples, but I think I've thrown something out for consideration. If our lead Gurus prefer, I will be quite happy to continue to soak up (and hopefully contribute to) the ongoing tech thread advancements. That thread strikes me as a pot-of-gold for us techies.
Some organization has been mentioned before.
My thought just sorta ramble around here and there when I am the only one talking.
I did expect more questions and expounding a detail further to someone.
I have been real happy lately with a couple others posting up stuff learned and adding to the tech.
And the type 3 sub. It is the most viable way to go to a full automatic trans.
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Great feedback Larry, Rex & Dano. I have added this as a featured thread. I will be happy to help format this however you guys want, I'm open to suggestions. We can start a small group to discuss ways to format this so we dont derail this thread. Look under community and groups in the navigation bar for VW Tech Group.
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