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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    I can cruise in 5th. all day, but that 6th./overdrive is nice!
    I have played with shifting a lot with this M8

    I have found I can shift to 6th gear @ 48mph

    Keep the RPM over 1750 The knock sensors will keep the timing where ut should be so as not to lug or damage the engine

    Do not try this with an older Harley
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    On another forum some guys in Germany stumbled onto this fix, but after more miles it too is an epic failure
    As of July 2021, have the Greg Williams - MACOMB COUNTY CHOPPERS push rods been proven to fail regarding the oil migration issue?

    https://www.facebook.com/search/top?...nty%20choppers

    Or, are these GW-MCC rods an effective answer? Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvenJack View Post
    As of July 2021, have the Greg Williams - MACOMB COUNTY CHOPPERS push rods been proven to fail regarding the oil migration issue?

    https://www.facebook.com/search/top?...nty%20choppers

    Or, are these GW-MCC rods an effective answer? Thank you!
    Some have had luck with the pushrods, the HD fix venting the primary is by far the better fix to date
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Some have had luck with the pushrods, the HD fix venting the primary is by far the better fix to date
    It seems the New venting works, But Harley either doesn't know why some migrated and most didn't...Or their not saying why...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    It seems the New venting works, But Harley either doesn't know why some migrated and most didn't...Or their not saying why...
    Harley IMO new these would migrate but kept it quiet hoping many would not put enuff hard miles on to know
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    I'm thinking of getting the Greg Williams pushrod just in case my starts migrating, so far mine hasn't but I don't have a slug of miles on bike either. As far as pushrod goes some says it worked for them and some said not. As far as the harley fix I have read some had it done and it still does it and the one poster said he had the harley fix plus the pushrod and still does, luck of draw I guess, could be why harley went back to a regular clutch cable, not sure but I think everyone thinks that because of the migrating issues.

    All for now Trampas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Harley IMO new these would migrate but kept it quiet hoping many would not put enuff hard miles on to know
    When I had the problem of migrating 2017 Triglide I had a direct line to Harley(The number was given to me and strict confidentiality) in York Pennsylvania and off the record they told me just keep on bringing it back The dealer will repair it under warranty and I said every 800 to 1000 miles I got a bring it in he said most people don’t put that much on it it in a year so if they change the oil once a year They will never know it was Migrating but you didn’t hear this from us… and after a few more complaints they put me on the do not call list :AKA’ when I mention my name they hung up..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    When I had the problem of migrating 2017 Triglide I had a direct line to Harley(The number was given to me and strict confidentiality) in York Pennsylvania and off the record they told me just keep on bringing it back The dealer will repair it under warranty and I said every 800 to 1000 miles I got a bring it in he said most people don’t put that much on it it in a year so if they change the oil once a year They will never know it was Migrating but you didn’t hear this from us… and after a few more complaints they put me on the do not call list :AKA’ when I mention my name they hung up..
    Ask yourself what did HD do to cause this problem in the first place?

    It will lead you to the hydraulic clutch slave cylinder. The space it occupies leaves nowhere for tranny fluid to run down past the gears so it gets pumped down the clutch rod. HMMMM, pretty simple fix if HD wanted to. I also believe the tranny vent is NOT big enuff, causing the pressures to be higher on the primary side, this could cause a vacuum signal IMO

    WE never had a problem like this until the hydraulic clutch reared its ugly head as far back as 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Ask yourself what did HD do to cause this problem in the first place?

    It will lead you to the hydraulic clutch slave cylinder. The space it occupies leaves nowhere for tranny fluid to run down past the gears so it gets pumped down the clutch rod. HMMMM, pretty simple fix if HD wanted to. I also believe the tranny vent is NOT big enuff, causing the pressures to be higher on the primary side, this could cause a vacuum signal IMO

    WE never had a problem like this until the hydraulic clutch reared its ugly head as far back as 2014
    Here is some food for thought,without saying what I ended up doing to get Harley to install the primary vent in my 17. they sent a tech from Harley to my dealer when they did the install,and he told the dealership tech to install a new crank seal which he happened to bring with him.

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    Had no transfer on my 2014 Twin Cam. Had transfer on my 2018 M8.

    Did the fix below (inexpensive, easy & quick) and have not had a problem since.

    Pretty sure Jack hit the nail on the head regarding the clutch. But if you have the hydraulic clutch and are getting transfer...it's an easy fix.



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    I had this vent tube installed last year sometime. I haven't had any problem on my 19 Tri-Glide. I'm working on 21000 miles. Granted, I don't think I had any problem in the 1st. place. So this seems to be the "fix". This will be the 3rd. time this tri-glide has been to Sturgis. Always ran great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 520fd View Post
    I had this vent tube installed last year sometime. I haven't had any problem on my 19 Tri-Glide. I'm working on 21000 miles. Granted, I don't think I had any problem in the 1st. place. So this seems to be the "fix". This will be the 3rd. time this tri-glide has been to Sturgis. Always ran great.

    22 Sturgis Rally's over all.
    My 2017 Freewheeler did not have the vent, in 28K miles it never transferred any fluid, nor did it sump

    My 2021 M8 114 Freewheeler has the factory installed vent, but it also has a cable pull clutch. I still maintain the slave cylinder for the clutch trapped the tranny fluid and pumped it down the clutch rod.

    If you look @ the trap door and see the actuator you will see once the gears churn up the fluid it gets trapped by the piston of the actuator. This makes a barrier the fluid cannot get past, the next path would be down the pushrod and into the primary. JMO
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