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    Default Papa Zook's Rake Kit Install Question.

    Question for those that have installed Papa Zook's TriGlide Rake Kit. The instructions says that the rear brake reservoir will have to be relocated. When turning sharply to the right the handlebars presses against the reservoir. My mechanic relocated mine under the outer fairing which I am not real comfortable with since the outer fairing will need to be removed to add/check the fluid level. Just curious where others relocated the reservoir?

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    Nope. Relocate it just above and behind the right side top of the crash bar, just below the current location.

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    Papa Zook. I do not have a rake kit but might purchase one later this year (XMAS) maybe. However, I have a question for you. Can the rear reservoir be moved to that location without much trouble? Do the brake lines in and out have to be removed and cut or lengthened?

    The reason I ask is it looks to me like it would make it a lot easier when adding brake fluid while flushing the rear brake lines. What would be involved in doing that. BTW, great answer and response, and pictures, to the OP questions. I have a 2016 TGU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDF48 View Post
    Papa Zook. I do not have a rake kit but might purchase one later this year (XMAS) maybe. However, I have a question for you. Can the rear reservoir be moved to that location without much trouble? Do the brake lines in and out have to be removed and cut or lengthened?

    The reason I ask is it looks to me like it would make it a lot easier when adding brake fluid while flushing the rear brake lines. What would be involved in doing that. BTW, great answer and response, and pictures, to the OP questions. I have a 2016 TGU.
    As for the reservoir relocation, it is an easy job and no, the brake lines do not have to be altered at all. The top picture above is Scott's 2015 Red TG (Consitter) that he just raked with one of my HHI kits and maybe he will chime in and add his 2 cents. I think he is loving it. Actually I know he is loving it by all the texts and phone calls... You there Scott?

    BTW, HHI Hawg Halters builds all of our Harley and Honda rake kits and when you order from us HERE they ship straight from HHI to you, but you save $60 with us as we do not charge sales tax and offer free shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    that he just raked

    It is an easy job and no the brake lines do not have to be altered at all. The top picture above is Scott's 2015 Red TG (Consitter) that he just raked with on of my kits and maybe he will chime in and add his 2 cents. I think he is loving it. You there Scott?
    How much are we looking at for a rake kit for my 2016 TG? Is the installation hard to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    that he just raked

    It is an easy job and no the brake lines do not have to be altered at all. The top picture above is Scott's 2015 Red TG (Consitter) that he just raked with on of my kits and maybe he will chime in and add his 2 cents. I think he is loving it. You there Scott?
    Thanks a bunch for the quick reply. I think I am going to do this relocation when my back gets a little more rest.

    I have a compressed lower back disc between L4 and L5 that I have had for about 26 years now but they don't think it needs surgery. BUT, every now and then I can just bend over or twist quickly and it feels likes mashing your fingers in a car door. It squeezes those nerves and your brain puts you on the ground. Usually takes about a week or two to get back to half way normal. I really would like to have the surgery. But, back to the subject at hand.

    BTW, I will definitely purchase from you when I order the rake kit. Do you know of anybody in the Birmingham area you would trust to do the install? Approximately how many hours involved for somebody that knows what they are doing? Thanks again for the replies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cward59 View Post
    How much are we looking at for a rake kit for my 2016 TG? Is the installation hard to do?
    Cecil, they are $796 shipped and yes, depending on your skill level, they are a job to install. I recommend an experienced HD mechanic do the job, but quite a few here have done it themselves. Its all going to depend on how comfortable your are tearing down your key switch assembly and accessory switch panel, entire front end, forks, trees, wheel, tire, fender, fairing, electronics, etc, then reassembling it, torquing the head bearing to the proper 40 lbs of torque, etc, etc. It is a two person job and takes time, precision and patience.

    Is it doable for a decent DIY wrench? Yes, but just know it takes some time, skills and a helping hand. Many enjoy doing their own work and it is a rewarding experience for those who do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    Cecil, they are $796 shipped and yes, depending on your skill level, they are a job to install. I recommend an experienced HD mechanic do the job, but quite a few here have done it themselves.
    Do you have anyone in the Oklahoma area that you would recommend? or Texas? I think I'm going to make that a winter project and while I have the front end off chroming the lower forks and have the AK20 cartridges added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cward59 View Post
    How much are we looking at for a rake kit for my 2016 TG? Is the installation hard to do?
    I am sure Papa Zook and others will respond to your question. Below is an interesting thread you can read about the rake kits.

    https://www.triketalk.com/forum/thre...e-kit-Question

    BTW, Papa Zook is in Conroe, Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    Nope. Relocate it just above and behind the right side top of the crash bar, just below the current location.

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    Awesome. Thanks for the information/pictures. I guess it is held on with sticky-back tape?

    I'll have my mechanic relocate to that site on my next visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cward59 View Post
    Do you have anyone in the Oklahoma area that you would recommend? or Texas? I think I'm going to make that a winter project and while I have the front end off chroming the lower forks and have the AK20 cartridges added.
    Yeah I have someone in the Oklahoma City/Norman area that can do it for you. Shoot me a PM and I can give you his contact info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quietrider View Post
    Awesome. Thanks for the information/pictures. I guess it is held on with sticky-back tape?

    I'll have my mechanic relocate to that site on my next visit.
    From Scott's pic, it looks like his mechanic used a short piece of thin metal and drilled a hole in each end to form a bracket or maybe thats the stock bracket cut down. He secured each end with a black cable tie. The left side is secured to the main harness loom which is secured to the frame and the right side is secured to the clutch and throttle cables which are secured to the frame down tube. Plenty stable and secure and a good, easy solution.

    Actually, the relocation makes it easier to add or change your brake fluid without spilling or overfilling it and sits much more level than the original factory location. Lowes and Home Depot have sticks of pre-punched thin metal bracket stock that you can buy and cut to length if you need a bracket. They are silver, but you can spray paint them black so they blend in. I keep several sticks of different sizes at my shop just for jobs like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    As for the reservoir relocation, it is an easy job and no, the brake lines do not have to be altered at all. The top picture above is Scott's 2015 Red TG (Consitter) that he just raked with one of my HHI kits and maybe he will chime in and add his 2 cents. I think he is loving it. Actually I know he is loving it by all the texts and phone calls... You there Scott?

    BTW, HHI Hawg Halters builds all of our Harley and Honda rake kits and when you order from us HERE they ship straight from HHI to you, but you save $60 with us (and Gold Club Members get another 10% off = $140 total savings, not including the $40 in free merch & benefits) because we do not charge sales tax and they do on all their orders.

    You get the One Year HHI factory warranty and customer support and 24/7/365 text and phone support from me (ask anyone who has bought one) and you receive free insured UPS priority tracked shipping too. HHI owner Mark Thompson and I have been doing business for 10 years and are collaborating on these trees to make them fitment specific to the TriGlide. I buy and send Mark stock takeoff TG trees of different years for his R&D. He received Scott's TG takeoff trees today.
    Yup, I’m here, albeit shortly. Just got 3 hours of mandatory OT in and I’m tired.

    But I’ll take the time to say that this is the absolute BEST add on I have done to my trike. I was seriously considering selling it because I had so much trouble with pain in my shoulders due to struggling with steering. I even have a DK lift on my trike, that just didn’t do much for me. But the rake kit has literally changed my life while riding. We rode 170 miles last Thursday, and no shoulder pain, and definitely no tension headache that would usually develop after riding. I felt so good that I went to my evening Taekwondo class that night.

    So saying I’m happy is an understatement. It’s given me back the want to ride, instead of dreading it.

    ETA: at slow speeds is when you notice the most. It takes nearly 90% less effort to turn on a parking lot or circling around to get to a gas pump. I can do it one handed. Anybody who rides a stock TG knows what a difference I’m talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consitter View Post
    Yup, I’m here, albeit shortly. Just got 3 hours of mandatory OT in and I’m tired.

    But I’ll take the time to say that this is the absolute BEST add on I have done to my trike. I was seriously considering selling it because I had so much trouble with pain in my shoulders due to struggling with steering. I even have a DK lift on my trike, that just didn’t do much for me. But the rake kit has literally changed my life while riding. We rode 170 miles last Thursday, and no shoulder pain, and definitely no tension headache that would usually develop after riding. I felt so good that I went to my evening Taekwondo class that night.

    So saying I’m happy is an understatement. It’s given me back the want to ride, instead of dreading it.

    ETA: at slow speeds is when you notice the most. It takes nearly 90% less effort to turn on a parking lot or circling around to get to a gas pump. I can do it one handed. Anybody who rides a stock TG knows what a difference I’m talking about.
    Could you explain how you attached the reservoir to the frame when you relocated it? Did you cut down the oem bracket, use sticky tape or zip ties, etc?

    Oh yeah, What year is your tri glide?

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    I think I recognize the stock location photo ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quietrider View Post
    Could you explain how you attached the reservoir to the frame when you relocated it? Did you cut down the oem bracket, use sticky tape or zip ties, etc?

    Oh yeah, What year is your tri glide?
    It’s a 15. And I really don’t know, because my mechanic is the one that did it. From the pic, it looks like he attached the reservoir to a piece of slotted metal that’s zip tied to sthe frame.

    Oh...something I thought I’d mentioned in my original post and didn’t...at highway speeds, it takes about half the effort to steer in the twistys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
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    Yessir, that be correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by consitter View Post
    It’s a 15. And I really don’t know, because my mechanic is the one that did it. From the pic, it looks like he attached the reservoir to a piece of slotted metal that’s zip tied to sthe frame.

    Oh...something I thought I’d mentioned in my original post and didn’t...at highway speeds, it takes about half the effort to steer in the twistys.
    Thanks for the info.

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