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    Default Not starting in gear.

    New to me 2015 Freewheeler.

    Went to start the bike, for a ride, no start. Was in gear, with clutch engaged.

    With bike in neutral, clutch engaged, bike started.

    Bike has hydraulic clutch.

    Did notice previous owner had grips changed out.

    Went for ride, stopped at gas station, same scenario.

    Anything special to start looking for / looking at?

    Thanks.

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    If the grips are bigger in diameter it is possible the clutch switch is not contacting, you are applying the brake when starting in gear with the clutch pulled in right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailtrekerNJ View Post
    New to me 2015 Freewheeler.

    Went to start the bike, for a ride, no start. Was in gear, with clutch engaged.

    With bike in neutral, clutch engaged, bike started.

    Bike has hydraulic clutch.

    Did notice previous owner had grips changed out.

    Went for ride, stopped at gas station, same scenario.

    Anything special to start looking for / looking at?

    Thanks.
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    Did not apply brake when starting.

    Will try that tomorrow.

    Thanks, glad I joined the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailtrekerNJ View Post
    Did not apply brake when starting.

    Will try that tomorrow.

    Thanks, glad I joined the group.
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    Yep, gotta have the brake applied
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    Thanks all for the information.

    Bike started like you said, in gear with brake applied.

    Wife paid special attention as she thought I bought a lemon when it didn't start as planned yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailtrekerNJ View Post
    Thanks all for the information.

    Bike started like you said, in gear with brake applied.

    Wife paid special attention as she thought I bought a lemon when it didn't start as planned yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailtrekerNJ View Post
    Thanks all for the information.

    Bike started like you said, in gear with brake applied.

    Wife paid special attention as she thought I bought a lemon when it didn't start as planned yesterday.
    Lol

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    It just takes time to learn the little things. I've had my FLRT trike for right at a month and just had a similar experience. Was getting ready to leave work, turned on the ignition, engaged the clutch, put it in first gear, and hit the start button. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. How did my battery die? But all the lights are on and looking normal. On a hunch, I shifted from first back into neutral. Hit the starter ... fired right up. Lesson learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailtrekerNJ View Post
    Did not apply brake when starting.

    Will try that tomorrow.

    Thanks, glad I joined the group.
    If you do not have any service records for your FLRT, you need to stay on top of clutch fluid flushes and brake fluid flushes.

    The MOCO recommends every 2 years, get yourself one of these, it will tell you for sure if your fluid is bad( could be sooner than the 2 year range)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    If you do not have any service records for your FLRT, you need to stay on top of clutch fluid flushes and brake fluid flushes.

    The MOCO recommends every 2 years, get yourself one of these, it will tell you for sure if your fluid is bad( could be sooner than the 2 year range)

    Got one a couple weeks ago and tried it on my Jeep. Seems to work as advertised. Cheap insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    If you do not have any service records for your FLRT, you need to stay on top of clutch fluid flushes and brake fluid flushes.

    The MOCO recommends every 2 years, get yourself one of these, it will tell you for sure if your fluid is bad( could be sooner than the 2 year range)

    Why is this such an issue ?

    It was never needed on my other bikes

    My cars have never had this done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warped View Post
    Why is this such an issue ?

    It was never needed on my other bikes

    My cars have never had this done
    I agree…. But there’s something about personal toys like bikes trikes etc that some people just have to Get up close and personal with it and have every gadget possible so to get up close and personal with it… Not that there’s anything wrong with that!..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warped View Post
    Why is this such an issue ?

    It was never needed on my other bikes

    My cars have never had this done
    THere are a lot of theories out there that may be more than just that

    IMO, HD screwed up with the hydraulic clutch system, but would never admit it

    No one should run a system like HD did so close to an exhaust system, in theory the added heat causes bubbles of gas in the fluid causing the piston in the actuator to fail prematurely

    This would be bad JUJU for the MOCO, so starting in early 17 they had a recall on some models to retrofit a new piston and seal

    Prior to that they had a recall on the clutch master cylinder and lever

    But the biggest thing IMO to cover their ongoing problem was to put in the owner's manual service requirements to flush the system every 2 years

    This is just my opinion on the MOCO mistakes
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    I recently learned that I had to apply the brake.

    My bike is a 2021 Ultra; in May 2022, I converted it to a trike - CSC conversion. All still started without hitting the brake.

    Recently, took my bike in to add the TMPS - to do so, dealer had to tell the bike that it is now a trike. When they did, I now have to hit the brake to start.

    Also noticed that we lost the cruise - so, bike is back in the shop to see what caused this.

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    I replaced my LHCM because I thought it was bad! (Shoulda read the forum first, huh?)

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    Have to admit I'm not much of a mechanic to be changing all fluids, comfortable with oil changes.

    Was good when my son in law lived nearby, he owned many a Harley.

    The bike came with a complete, detailed print out of all services performed on the bike, from milage 0.

    I put all loose change, at the end of the day, into a jar to help cover the cost of bringing the bike to the dealer for work .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailtrekerNJ View Post


    Have to admit I'm not much of a mechanic to be changing all fluids, comfortable with oil changes.

    Was good when my son in law lived nearby, he owned many a Harley.

    The bike came with a complete, detailed print out of all services performed on the bike, from milage 0.

    I put all loose change, at the end of the day, into a jar to help cover the cost of bringing the bike to the dealer for work .
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    OK, gotta ask...what is this instrument? I deduce from comments that it's used to check hydraulic/brake fluid to measure moisture..but what is it?

    Thanks, Bill

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