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    Arrow Handeling corners & curves?

    Yesterday I went on a ride with a couple of friends and we went up a very neat long sloaping hill that has several curves. Being a new triker, I slowed down and took the curves a lot slower than both of them did on their Harley Ultras.
    Is there a trick to handeling corners? I have an 04 1800 goldwing with a Trike Shop Kit. I kinda lean my weight to the inside of the curve. If riding double should the rider learn to lean also?
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    Okie,

    I learned to ride the curves (Bends) coming down a very very tight mountain pass in Switzerland. My tip is to go wide into the curve and cut in (out & in). I found this gives you momentum to get through the bends. I am a bit daft but I also lean as it makes it easier for me to steer with the rake. This may not be the way others do it but it is very successful for me as we have hundreds and I mean hundreds of roundabouts here.
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    Lean is good Push AND pull on the bars and give it gas just as you did on the 2 wheeler. I can get my inside tire to smoke <LOL>

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    Once you get the hang of it do you feel you can stay with or outperform a good rider on 2 wheels?

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    Wolf, that makes sence to go into the curve from the outside and move into the inside. I can see where that would work.

    The rake sure makes it easier in the curves. Before I had the rake installed it seemed to want to wash to the outside and that was a spooky feeling. I'm getting a little more comfortable with it after riding the last three days. Today we didn't have very much wind and it was really great riding.

    I was also wondering if a trike properly ridden could keep up with a touring bike. I know I can't keep up with the sport bikes because I couldn't do it on my harley, and really didn't want to, especially at 64 years Old.

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    The Wolf and John pointed out, do lean into the curves. This wil reduce the feeling you are being pushed to the outside of the curve. Also helps to push down on the outside footpeg - that will also help counteract the push away from the inside of the curve. Also it uses your leg to keep you upright instead of arms, mid and upper body muscles. Helps make it easier to steer. Wolf suggested taking a curve out & in. They teach that in the MSF riding classes. It is not only smoother line, you can also see further through a curve, so it's safer. Technical term is a "late apex". Generally good riding techneque on 2 or 3 wheels.

    The MSF also taught "Slow, Look, Lean and Roll" to go through a curve.

    We don't lean, but slow slightly, look through the curve then power through. As john mentioned, use both arms - push and pull. If I have the backrest on, I also use that to push against. Again, not using the body muscles as much.

    hdrider axes:Once you get the hang of it do you feel you can stay with or outperform a good rider on 2 wheels? Yep. A good trike pilot can keep up with most of the riders out there. I was going down the Pig Trail (locally famous for it's curves) to camp at a rally, and I kept having to brake in the curves for a pair of sportbikes ahead of me. They'd pull away on the straights, I would catch up on the twisties. They were dragging pegs, not hanging off on the turns. (I would guess good riders, not racers) They weren't too happy I was keeping up with their race replicas.

    They were even more surprised when we stopped and saw I was pulling the Bunkhouse camper. I've always been able to keep up with cruisers and touring bikes.

    Sometimes a bit slower from a stop becouse of the extra weight, but right there wanting to pass in short order.
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    Don, I've always told my wife to stay uprignt on the bike and not to lean. I want her to become part of the bike so I know how much to lean.
    Is that backward to what ought to happen on a trike?
    My thinking is if she leans (shifts weight) to the inside of a curve it will help hold the trike down on the inside turn. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Okie, I have never felt anything like the trike lifting on either side as I take turns, and I have no trouble keeping up with--and pushing--the two wheelers I ride with. I think you will find that it will just take a little time and a few miles, but suddenly you will realize that you aren't even worrying about it. You are just having fun and your trike is hugging those curves and having fun along with you!

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    My rule of thumb is give it 1,000 miles. Don't be discouraged before that. Some catch on in way less time. Seems the less you rode before the trike the easier it is to learn to ride a trike. If you were not an aggressive 2 wheeler u will still be able to be an aggressive 3 wheeler. I have a DVD of a 2 wheeler trying to keep up with a trike on the Dragon and he didn't do too good. Scraped pegs all the way threw it.

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    My .02

    The FBG will handle very well doing the twisties. The only time I am aggressive is on the curvy roads, that's just fun for me. Otherwise it is limit or +5 or so.

    Maybe you guys can help me with one of my spooks since this thread is about the same stuff.

    My front wheel doesn't seem to want to stay hooked up or on track and will push, even slide, to the outside of the curve. If you hit a bump in a curve it will get worse so you really have to be mindful of just how much the front wheel can take. I'm not really talking about a lot of speed either.. maybe 45 to 50 through a "normal" mountain curve on a blacktop road. Less than 40 through a really tight curve.

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    Tire is stock HD that was on the Ultra and almost looks new.

    42 pounds of air

    4.5 rake kit

    Rear tires @ 24 lbs

    Adjustable coil over shocks @ #1 setting

    Air suspension set at #50-55 for curvy roads and #40 for comfort riding. (on board comp)

    I have a true track as well, left it on during the conversion.

    Would this be normal for you guys too or could the back end be out of alignment causing a push?

    Left turns are worse than right hand but not much.

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