take off the center plexaglass piece for the summer months.
engine needs the extra air folw.
engine needs the extra air folw.
REMINDER to those who have dennis's wind defoectors
- Thread starter eagle1
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Why is your engine getting hot??? I was under the impression from all the comments that you will not need to remove the deflector..
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TheBobs
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I think Eagle1 is just being careful.
Before anyone "circles the wagons," this was discussed a few weeks ago. I'm still collecting data now that we are consistently in the 80s and 90s. I haven't been surprised either way. If I was, I would have let Dennis and everyone here know. Here's a link to the thread where Dennis mentioned running only the bracket in the summer as well as some of my experiences...
http://www.triketalk.com/forum/harley-trikes-6/deflectors-10766/
Before anyone "circles the wagons," this was discussed a few weeks ago. I'm still collecting data now that we are consistently in the 80s and 90s. I haven't been surprised either way. If I was, I would have let Dennis and everyone here know. Here's a link to the thread where Dennis mentioned running only the bracket in the summer as well as some of my experiences...
http://www.triketalk.com/forum/harley-trikes-6/deflectors-10766/
BinIdaho
TOI - Idaho
I had the center deflector and wings put on my TG several weeks ago.... noticed "forced" handlebar gripping while riding 65-70 mph on the interstate? Anyone else have issues with the front end wanting to track side-to-side (not a wobble). I've had the air deflectors on other bikes, so that shouldn't be an issue...will take of the center deflector and see if the handling improves.
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install instructions tell you to remove the plexa glass piece for summer use. lb
I have, but only when running in some really "dirty air" with a bunch of cars and or trucks and usually with a cross wind. It isn't a real bad issue, but I do notice it. I messed around on a recent trip to Texas and pulled the fork wings off to get more air and the situation went away, on the return trip to MO it cooled off and I put the wings back on and it came back. I suspect it is just the additional wind loading of the forks. That is why I would like to see HD make a Road Glide version trike so we could have a frame mounted fairing instead of the fork mounted Bat Wing.
Sam
Someone is reading my mind!!!
After several phone conversations with two other testers of these, we had determined that lexan worked great in cold or cool weather. (this situation is what started this last fall) I found that as temperatures rose above 70, running just the metal bracket (lexan removed) solved any felt radiant heat a rider felt. I found that head temperatures of motorcycle were not affected but in warmer temperatures, I felt more heat from motor. I found removing lexan portion only and running the metal bracket solved this. Also I run my full lowers with all vents fully closed. May sound backwards but works.
thebobs has been doing allot of experiments with lexan size and has found that a little shorter piece mounted for warm weather is the answer. I cut some this past week and went on a small trip to Ohio with the new setup. Works great for me.
I am going to start shipping both sizes with the deflector sets, for both cold and warm riding. If you have the set now, I will make these smaller bent lexan parts available to you for the shipping cost only. First, just try running bracket only. Get up to speed and open your lowers adjustable vents, you will close them do to trapped heat and not open them till you want a little heat on a cool evening.
These are designed to provide a "pocket" of calmer air around the riders which they do. They will not block cross winds or the very turbulent air experienced when you ride around larger vehicles at speed, my van is affected by those.
<O
I feel you will enjoy these on those long days of riding, less wind buffeting results in less fatigue at end of day.
If you ride your T Glide year round in cooler / cold temperatures, these are a must have. If your do allot of traveling, you will also benefit from these. If you only use your T Glide for short pleasure riding, you may not find these as effective and your money may be better spent on other things.
<OWhat works for some, may not work or feel the same to others. I understand this and will speak to anyone about this.
Some pictures attached of shorter lexan part.
As always, your feedback is encouraged, give me a call or drop me an e mail.
Dennis Swan
After several phone conversations with two other testers of these, we had determined that lexan worked great in cold or cool weather. (this situation is what started this last fall) I found that as temperatures rose above 70, running just the metal bracket (lexan removed) solved any felt radiant heat a rider felt. I found that head temperatures of motorcycle were not affected but in warmer temperatures, I felt more heat from motor. I found removing lexan portion only and running the metal bracket solved this. Also I run my full lowers with all vents fully closed. May sound backwards but works.
thebobs has been doing allot of experiments with lexan size and has found that a little shorter piece mounted for warm weather is the answer. I cut some this past week and went on a small trip to Ohio with the new setup. Works great for me.
I am going to start shipping both sizes with the deflector sets, for both cold and warm riding. If you have the set now, I will make these smaller bent lexan parts available to you for the shipping cost only. First, just try running bracket only. Get up to speed and open your lowers adjustable vents, you will close them do to trapped heat and not open them till you want a little heat on a cool evening.
These are designed to provide a "pocket" of calmer air around the riders which they do. They will not block cross winds or the very turbulent air experienced when you ride around larger vehicles at speed, my van is affected by those.
<O
I feel you will enjoy these on those long days of riding, less wind buffeting results in less fatigue at end of day.If you ride your T Glide year round in cooler / cold temperatures, these are a must have. If your do allot of traveling, you will also benefit from these. If you only use your T Glide for short pleasure riding, you may not find these as effective and your money may be better spent on other things.
<O
What works for some, may not work or feel the same to others. I understand this and will speak to anyone about this. Some pictures attached of shorter lexan part.
As always, your feedback is encouraged, give me a call or drop me an e mail.
Dennis Swan
T
TheBobs
Guest
Been running dozens of data collection runs for timing and heat, using TTS Mastertune. I shifted my attention from that project to briefly report on the effects of various baffle setups on engine temp. It was a perfect day where air temps stayed within 3 degrees all afternoon. Fairing mounted oil temp gauge reported pretty much 230-240 at cruise and 260 at stoplights for all the data runs. If anything, the oil temps were lower overall with the 2" baffle with plexi. I don't know why, I just read the gauge and write down the results.
Air Temp 84 for all three runs. TTS DataMaster DBW data. Equal cooldowns between runs. First run not published since computer lost sync at 1/2 way point. Runs were 29 miles over the same exact route on flat terrain. Moderate to heavy traffic, but able to do the speed limit on each leg. Engine Temperature (ET) read with TTS at front cylinder ET sensor. RPM 2800-3000 during each long leg. Temps taken at THE END OF EACH LEG. Have been experimenting with a 2" plexi on the center baffle and it works good for me. With the 2" plexi, I get smoother air when opening the fairing vents, can hear the stock stereo speakers at 70mph, all without any adverse impact on engine temps. As a matter of fact there really isn't that much difference between any of the baffle setups. Results listed below in order driven.
Leg speed 65#1 65#2 60#1 60#2 60#3 65#3 65#4
NoBaffle 264 270 277 280 282 284 280
BacketOnly 273 280 279 279 286 284 289
w/ 2" Plexi 259 273 273 279 282 280 280
Not as scientific as Wizard's A+B=C data:laugh::laugh::laugh:, but thorough enough to give you a semi-informed look at the question at hand.
Air Temp 84 for all three runs. TTS DataMaster DBW data. Equal cooldowns between runs. First run not published since computer lost sync at 1/2 way point. Runs were 29 miles over the same exact route on flat terrain. Moderate to heavy traffic, but able to do the speed limit on each leg. Engine Temperature (ET) read with TTS at front cylinder ET sensor. RPM 2800-3000 during each long leg. Temps taken at THE END OF EACH LEG. Have been experimenting with a 2" plexi on the center baffle and it works good for me. With the 2" plexi, I get smoother air when opening the fairing vents, can hear the stock stereo speakers at 70mph, all without any adverse impact on engine temps. As a matter of fact there really isn't that much difference between any of the baffle setups. Results listed below in order driven.
Leg speed 65#1 65#2 60#1 60#2 60#3 65#3 65#4
NoBaffle 264 270 277 280 282 284 280
BacketOnly 273 280 279 279 286 284 289
w/ 2" Plexi 259 273 273 279 282 280 280
Not as scientific as Wizard's A+B=C data:laugh::laugh::laugh:, but thorough enough to give you a semi-informed look at the question at hand.
Good Morning Dennis,
I bought your fork wings (last batch of chrome ones) and tree baffle a month or so ago and haven’t been able to get out until last Saturday 05/05. WOW what a difference!!!!!!!! It’s now a pleasure riding without the constant wind buffeting I had previously experienced. You were right; these items eliminate the turbulence behind the fairing and make the journey much more pleasurable. I also have installed your lift kit and tour pak shims. They add a lot to the visual impact and now the trike looks like it should!
Thanks again for your R&D for the Tri Glide.
Old Guy
I bought your fork wings (last batch of chrome ones) and tree baffle a month or so ago and haven’t been able to get out until last Saturday 05/05. WOW what a difference!!!!!!!! It’s now a pleasure riding without the constant wind buffeting I had previously experienced. You were right; these items eliminate the turbulence behind the fairing and make the journey much more pleasurable. I also have installed your lift kit and tour pak shims. They add a lot to the visual impact and now the trike looks like it should!
Thanks again for your R&D for the Tri Glide.
Old Guy
I do like the idea of keeping more air off of me..But dont like the idea of taking plastic deflectors on and off the bike. I was thinking of a adjustable type of deflector versus removable type.Someone is reading my mind!!!
After several phone conversations with two other testers of these, we had determined that lexan worked great in cold or cool weather. (this situation is what started this last fall) I found that as temperatures rose above 70, running just the metal bracket (lexan removed) solved any felt radiant heat a rider felt. I found that head temperatures of motorcycle were not affected but in warmer temperatures, I felt more heat from motor. I found removing lexan portion only and running the metal bracket solved this. Also I run my full lowers with all vents fully closed. May sound backwards but works.
thebobs has been doing allot of experiments with lexan size and has found that a little shorter piece mounted for warm weather is the answer. I cut some this past week and went on a small trip to Ohio with the new setup. Works great for me.
I am going to start shipping both sizes with the deflector sets, for both cold and warm riding. If you have the set now, I will make these smaller bent lexan parts available to you for the shipping cost only. First, just try running bracket only. Get up to speed and open your lowers adjustable vents, you will close them do to trapped heat and not open them till you want a little heat on a cool evening.
These are designed to provide a "pocket" of calmer air around the riders which they do. They will not block cross winds or the very turbulent air experienced when you ride around larger vehicles at speed, my van is affected by those.
<O
If you ride your T Glide year round in cooler / cold temperatures, these are a must have. If your do allot of traveling, you will also benefit from these. If you only use your T Glide for short pleasure riding, you may not find these as effective and your money may be better spent on other things.
<O
Some pictures attached of shorter lexan part.
As always, your feedback is encouraged, give me a call or drop me an e mail.
Dennis Swan
I am sure we could get creative on making this happen..
what are your thoughts??
Hey Dennis, how much for the ship? I can send personal money thru paypal account and not cost you anything. 37076
Karen
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