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    Default Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Some thoughts on my way home from rally.
    A little over 40 years ago I made some of my first cross country trips on a 62 Pan. As others in that time, it was stripped and chopped. Times were different, scoots were different and I was different.
    As I rode I was thinking about just how different it is now (not just being on three)
    No gauges, gas, Speedo, nothing!
    Wind protection was a bed roll with extra clothes and tools strapped over head light. No faring, shield or lowers. Man, back then who would ride a BAGGER???!!!!
    When the long stretched out front end started to shake, you were going too fast and slowed down, think that was around 70 MPH.
    The little peanut tank held a little over 2 gallons of gas and you could use about 1.5 gallon of it. When you hit the reserve switch over you better have a gas station in site.
    Motels were rest areas and underpasses for three out of four nights then a camp ground for a shower unless you were walking in tall cotton and got a cheap motel.
    Remember when you had to adjust the primary chain and then the drive chain, then a little lube for the chain?
    Instead of washing off bugs from a windshield, that was done when you took a shower and washed your clothes.
    When stuff broke or wore out, you found other used stuff to fix it.
    Remember it kicking you back and almost over the bars when you tried to start it?
    What else was different for you??
    Dennis Swan
    (was life really easyer back then??)

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    "Been There" too.....
    ..if it has WHEELS, I'm in...ThumbUp

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    I remember:
    - piloting a hardtail panhead 600 miles each way to Daytona
    - when complete chrome plating a full hardtail frame costs the astronomic amount of $175 (my latest quote from 4 years back was just over $2000!)
    - nobody knew what 'trail' was on a trike, so trial and error on the frame rake was how we got one to ride comfortably
    - big gas tanks were a no-no (I agree with the peanut tank idea and if you needed a bit more capacity, a sportster tank was called for)
    - barnfinds were still possible - I bought complete panheads for $200, $275 and $350 (the $350 one had just been completely rebuilt, rechromed and custom painted - Dad was selling it out from under his teenage son because he was afraid he was going to hurt himself)
    - my wife was comfortable on a p-pad (no more, now its the best that Mustang offers)
    - a beachside room for me at Daytona ran about $40 a night, or a campsite for $15 if I was feeling adventurous
    - eating at Daytona meant sometimes sitting at a table with Evel Knievel, or Willie G. Davidson, or Jesse James (before they became household names)

    . . . . more to come, I'm sure.



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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Ah - the Good Old Days.

    Putting together a Sporty chopper with a bolt-on hardtail kit.

    Had a set of Z bars on a 6" over girder that rose the front end up because we didn't change the triple tree, and that reduced the useful gas volume in the Sportster tank. There was even less gas with a peanut or coffin tank.

    Running about 15 lbs of air in the rear tire to soften the ride of the hartail rear end.

    Don't forget the exhaust that went back and then up to the sky just back of the sissy bar - they were called "stacks" and mine had those exhaust flappers from a tractor.
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    First Daytona Bike Week for me was 1971, along with four Friends....53 Panhead Frame, slightly stretched,raked a lot...67 Shovelhead Engine, 30"over AEE Springer Frontend, Spool Hub Front Wheel, Tiny Solo Seat....Everything rolled up in a Sleeping Bag....Camped on the Beach at the Old Beach Racetrack Location....."Borrowed" my Honda Dealer's Room at the Thunderbird Motel for showers....Yep, I've "lived it" in years past..... ...had fun then, still havin' fun now...it's been a GREAT Life.....
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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    I'm a little young for this thread, it looks like some great adventures.
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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Certainly entertaining reading. I am also tooooo young to have had those experiences.

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmsocko View Post
    Certainly entertaining reading. I am also tooooo young to have had those experiences.
    Uh Huh.....

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Dennis pretty well summed up what seemed to be a more laid back time. A screwdriver and spanner to work on the bike and a match book for tune up. Used parts were interchangeable and pretty plentiful. Oil was generously used also.
    Alas, are we wiser? Older for sure.
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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    I'm a little young for this thread, it looks like some great adventures.


    ........"cough"............
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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmsocko View Post
    Certainly entertaining reading. I am also tooooo young to have had those experiences.
    Well if that is the case atleast us old folks can show you how to have fun.RIDE SAFE

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Regardless of how you got from point A to B in the past it just doesn't seem like it's as much of an adventure as it was... "back in the day".

    It seems to me that when we were much younger that we did things with a fly by the seat of your pants point of view. It was exciting to take a trip and there was no guarantee that you would make it there and back with out a break down or some other form of excitement. You met people along the way that either helped you out or were mill stones. You shared a fire, a joint or a beer with a complete stranger and the next day went your separate ways with a good memory and a hang over.

    Today when I travel I have a plan, a dependable means of transportation and money in my pocket and while I still meet really cool people I tend to shy away from the REALLY interesting people that I see out and about on the road. Part of that is my wife is with me and the other part is that media has painted a picture of Blood thirsty road pirates that makes me pass up the hitch hiker that I may have picked up 35 years ago.

    Any way... KEEP on Truck'in those who do and those who don't... Hit the road jack!
    Some people will never get what you are saying... It's best to just walk away before the storm! ThumbUp

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Quote Originally Posted by skuuter View Post
    ........"cough"............

    , dang didn't mean to choke you up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    , dang didn't mean to choke you up.

    .......
    ..if it has WHEELS, I'm in...ThumbUp

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Msocko3, it was good to finally meet you & your dad. Wish you could have road my bike to see what you thought why it it pullying to the right. no big deal, I'll figure it out. Guess if you want it done right you have to do it yourself. Jim

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcolson View Post
    Msocko3, it was good to finally meet you & your dad. Wish you could have road my bike to see what you thought why it it pullying to the right. no big deal, I'll figure it out. Guess if you want it done right you have to do it yourself. Jim
    Always good when you can put a face to a name, hope you can get the pulling straightened out.
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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcolson View Post
    Msocko3, it was good to finally meet you & your dad. Wish you could have road my bike to see what you thought why it it pullying to the right. no big deal, I'll figure it out. Guess if you want it done right you have to do it yourself. Jim
    Like wise. There are some really GREAT folks on this forum. MV proved that. Had a great time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuuter View Post
    ........"cough"............
    ??? reminising about military physical ?
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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Hello Jim,

    Nice to find your post. My wife and I were the riders on the Crystal Copper Screaming Eagle trike parked next to yours most of the time. Had fun talking with you and your friend. Let me know what you find out about the pulling to the right as I am always interested in solutions. Take care and hope to talk with you again.

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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    I am too young to have had any of the ole days experiences. Yep 1963 rode my new Norton to Daytona. We camped out at a buddy's house in Pearson. No windshields or saddle bags then, just tie all your stuff across the front forks. I lived in Clearwater and it was a long way to travel. It does make one think Dennis.....
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    Did anyone hear from Paul (the Red Stallion) that I wired the fan on in the parking lot? He said he would let me know how it went when he got to Ohio. Have not heard from him. I forgot his screen name.
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    Default Re: Some thoughts on my way home from rally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Memnoch451 View Post
    Regardless of how you got from point A to B in the past it just doesn't seem like it's as much of an adventure as it was... "back in the day".

    It seems to me that when we were much younger that we did things with a fly by the seat of your pants point of view. It was exciting to take a trip and there was no guarantee that you would make it there and back with out a break down or some other form of excitement. You met people along the way that either helped you out or were mill stones. You shared a fire, a joint or a beer with a complete stranger and the next day went your separate ways with a good memory and a hang over.

    Today when I travel I have a plan, a dependable means of transportation and money in my pocket and while I still meet really cool people I tend to shy away from the REALLY interesting people that I see out and about on the road. Part of that is my wife is with me and the other part is that media has painted a picture of Blood thirsty road pirates that makes me pass up the hitch hiker that I may have picked up 35 years ago.

    Any way... KEEP on Truck'in those who do and those who don't... Hit the road jack!
    When I travel alone, I still have been known to sleep over at a rest area, plans and roads change, sometimes several times in a day. Still love to hear others stories, you learn allot going in and paying for gas at the counter in some off the beaten path towns.

    Still travel both ways, planned stops with resevations and some with ride till tired, eat, find a place to lay your head.
    It is nice now, feel my scoot will get me there and back and having some money for rooms and food is real nice.
    We all have lots of stories, I seem to enjoy at times thinking back while I ride along.
    Also great to meet allot of folks at rally.

    I am so bad with names. Still, good people and good food, can not go wrong.
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    Hey Jim Mcdonald, I spent all day working on the trike. Everyone else here spent the day in the pool. It was 103 today.I adjusted the axle to the left 1/4".Didn't help. Greased the head bearing till I saw grease coming out also. No good. took off the steering stablizer. No good. I'm running out of options. Took the bike to the dealer 2 days ago, & they still won't mess with it. They say they don't know how to fix it.

    Duh!!!! Do what I'm doing & you might figure it out. Thats BS!! They are going to replace the parts that fell off the bike. I think I'm going to call around to see if anyone else has had this problem pulling to the right. I rode a friends trike today,& it goes straight on down the road. Gotta go now so ride safe Jim.

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    I heard from Paul. Stallion is fixed ans he is home without issue. MJ and I are in Roundup Montana heading to Glacier National park tomorrow. All is going well great ride even in the heat and wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iaff84 View Post
    When I travel alone, I still have been known to sleep over at a rest area, plans and roads change, sometimes several times in a day. Still love to hear others stories, you learn allot going in and paying for gas at the counter in some off the beaten path towns.

    Still travel both ways, planned stops with resevations and some with ride till tired, eat, find a place to lay your head.
    It is nice now, feel my scoot will get me there and back and having some money for rooms and food is real nice.
    We all have lots of stories, I seem to enjoy at times thinking back while I ride along.
    Also great to meet allot of folks at rally.

    I am so bad with names. Still, good people and good food, can not go wrong.
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    Y'all want adventure? Ride a while with Scalp Hunter - we have adventures everywhere we go!! This most recent one, TX to NC to TN to PA and back, coincided with the huge windstorm/thunderstorm/hailstorm/power outage in the Midwest, which left all the gas stations along the interstates in Ohio and northern Kentucky dark and useless. Coasted into an off-road station on a wing & a prayer, was able to get 1.46 gals before their tank was empty. Rest stops were also closed (I had a LARGE problem with that!). McD's shut down - - amazing! Trike performed beautifully, as it always does, but we have the most wonderful times to remember - makin' new memories with everybody we meet, reliving old stories with old friends, lovin' every minute of our 'big trips'!!

    I didn't live thru the 'good old days' with bike tales like many (including John) did, but we are havin' the time of our lives now, which is plenty for these old farts!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorilla View Post
    I heard from Paul. Stallion is fixed ans he is home without issue. MJ and I are in Roundup Montana heading to Glacier National park tomorrow. All is going well great ride even in the heat and wind.
    Great to hear....STAY SAFE and ENJOY.....
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    Blondie
    Did the china make it ok?

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    Did the china make it ok?
    As far as I know, it all did, Lucky!! Daughter hasn't unpacked every piece, but it seems to have come thru all those potholes and 'uneven roads' with minimum damage!! Thanks for remembering!!

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    "CHINA"...travelin' by Trike to it's destination.....
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    Sure do miss the pretty red headed lady that came in every morning while Earl,Ed and me where drinking coffee and telling li-- oops I mean stories.She did not say much just smiled and shook her head,got her coffee and went outside.RIDE SAFE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky View Post
    Sure do miss the pretty red headed lady that came in every morning while Earl,Ed and me where drinking coffee and telling li-- oops I mean stories.She did not say much just smiled and shook her head,got her coffee and went outside.RIDE SAFE
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    Back then I was flying high with the USAF but before that my brother and I had a old Simplex one lunger with a belt that went around the tire rim to the engine did all of about 50mph I wrecked it showing off to a girl. Then had a WWI Triumph still in crate put that together, rode it for awhile Dad sold it because of some indiscretions I was involved in. First new machine was a Cushman Eagle Scooter did a paper route and delivery service with it made good money too anywhere from $50 to $75 a month which back then was a lot. Then got into some more indiscretions and was offered a choice and I chose the USAF, best thing that could have happened to me they straightned my young butt right up. No more bikes until I got hitched to the Warden and we bought a 1968 Triumph and that was our only transportation for a couple of years. Since then I've had a lot of other bikes mainly Harley's
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    MJ and I finally made it home. 7436 miles. boy did we make a wrong turn. Really we had a great ride and a lot of fum just the 2 of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorilla View Post
    MJ and I finally made it home. 7436 miles. boy did we make a wrong turn. Really we had a great ride and a lot of fum just the 2 of us.
    Glad you're home safely!!! It'll take a while for your butts to regain any sensation, but be patient. By the time you've gone through your pictures, they should be good!!

    Uh, speaking of pictures, hope you'll post yours!!

    Much love to you both!
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    What a wonderful trip you had! But I know there is no place like home . Can't wait to see a few pictures, myself

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    I too started on those hardtail Harley's, here's a picture of my third Panhead in the Rats Hole Bike Show in Daytona 1970. Now in my old age I'd hate to give up my Goldwing but sometime I sit back and think "what if" I had just pushed all my old Panheads to the back of my garage instead of selling them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dave View Post
    I too started on those hardtail Harley's, here's a picture of my third Panhead in the Rats Hole Bike Show in Daytona 1970. Now in my old age I'd hate to give up my Goldwing but sometime I sit back and think "what if" I had just pushed all my old Panheads to the back of my garage instead of selling them.
    Thats a sharp looking bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dave View Post
    I too started on those hardtail Harley's, here's a picture of my third Panhead in the Rats Hole Bike Show in Daytona 1970. Now in my old age I'd hate to give up my Goldwing but sometime I sit back and think "what if" I had just pushed all my old Panheads to the back of my garage instead of selling them.
    I really like that bike.

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    I just can't help adding this one more bit of fun that we panhead riders participated in. We used to park our bikes in a dark area at our campground and set them to idle with the timing retarded (as far as it could go and still run). Then we'd relax and see whose motor would glow red-hot enough on the rear cylinder that we could actually see the piston bouncing up and down in the cylinder (visible right adjoining the rear exhaust outlet). And then we'd go off into stories about how we got burned by our bikes, or it was so hot . . . . .).

    Just had to throw this little recall out - I doubt that Goldwing riders on here have had such heated discussions yet.



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    Cool

    These are the good old days.

    My back wouldn't take my pan shovel 24in extended springer on a stretched frame, then or now. Then both front legs popped loose from the welds going 70mph to work, rode it home like that.

    Told bobby, to slug it, but hell no, he was an aircraft welder and welding that 4130 chrome moly into the mild steel was easy peasy and i didn't know chit, mmm, see how that worked out.

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