150 Most Recent Posts

Thread AuthorPostersPost AuthorForumThread/Post Link
DK Custom Products362Rogue1Harley Tri GlideWhat did you do to Your Tri-Glide T...
Papa Zook96SullyBBQ, Grilling, Cooki...Whats for supper?
SSpoon5trike ladyNew Member Introduct...Hello from VA
gfaltersack1gfaltersackHarley Tri GlideDK Customs remote oil filter kit in...
SSpoon5SullyNew Member Introduct...Hello from VA
ctdair8Old Road DogHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
Oldman-TriGlide7BlueGrabberHarley Tri GlideEnclosed Trailer Size
SSpoon5Jack KlarichNew Member Introduct...Hello from VA
SSpoon5GorillaNew Member Introduct...Hello from VA
SSpoon5SSpoonNew Member Introduct...Hello from VA
14TG414TGHarley Tri GlideInstallation of a new Fuel Filter &...
New Orleans Kevin7Jack KlarichHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
14TG4Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideInstallation of a new Fuel Filter &...
Seaweed7NotgrownupHarley Tri GlideLower Fairing Vents
14TG4GorillaHarley Tri GlideInstallation of a new Fuel Filter &...
14TG414TGHarley Tri GlideInstallation of a new Fuel Filter &...
14TG4Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideInstallation of a new Fuel Filter &...
DrCrazyTrain3Jack KlarichHarley Freewheeler /...True Dual Header
ctdair8Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
ctdair8ctdairHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
14TG4TrampasHarley Tri GlideInstallation of a new Fuel Filter &...
520fd3Rogue1For Sale & WTB C...FS: Trike Mid-Step
520fd3520fdFor Sale & WTB C...FS: Trike Mid-Step
14TG414TGHarley Tri GlideInstallation of a new Fuel Filter &...
JTJersey5JTJerseyHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
Jack Klarich1Jack KlarichGeneral Harley ChatExhaust Heat Shield
BigN693Jack KlarichEnabled TrikersFull length floorboards
JTJersey5Noodles107Harley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
ctdair8Old Road DogHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
ctdair8Old Road DogHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
Phu Cat4Phu CatGeneral DiscussionIs there a TV commercial
TXFIRE765GoldWingrGregHonda TrikesNew to Trikes and needing a convers...
paid4c431GoldWingrGregHonda TrikesDifference in touring between two w...
Donnimac4GoldWingrGregHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
paid4c410GoldWingrGregHonda TrikesService for differential on a Motor...
DrCrazyTrain3powerhaulicHarley Freewheeler /...True Dual Header
520fd3NotgrownupFor Sale & WTB C...FS: Trike Mid-Step
Yannick25vwbug72501VW Powered TrikesWil-Mac trike kit
520fd3520fdFor Sale & WTB C...FS: Trike Mid-Step
Bear22012Jack KlarichNew Member Introduct...New member
Phu Cat4rhino 2General DiscussionIs there a TV commercial
14TG614TGHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
scaldedchevy3Papa ZookLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
hogmemberisold2cScjhbGeneral DiscussionHow many carry spare headlight bulb...
Phu Cat4cScjhbGeneral DiscussionIs there a TV commercial
DrCrazyTrain3DrCrazyTrainHarley Freewheeler /...True Dual Header
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
New Orleans Kevin7MykneesbehurtinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
DK Custom Products362Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideWhat did you do to Your Tri-Glide T...
ctdair8MykneesbehurtinHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
ctdair8ctdairHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
Seaweed7Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideLower Fairing Vents
14TG6Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
ctdair8Jack KlarichHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
Phu Cat4trike ladyGeneral DiscussionIs there a TV commercial
ctdair8ctdairHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
scaldedchevy3Papa ZookLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
AriNV6Papa ZookRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
Phu Cat4Phu CatGeneral DiscussionIs there a TV commercial
TwoBye1TwoByeFor Sale & WTB C...GL1500 Tall windshield
scaldedchevy3MickLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
Gernerwa11SullyNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
AriNV6AriNVRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
Jack Klarich2Jack KlarichGeneral DiscussionGreat Day for a ride today
Gernerwa11Jack KlarichNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Gernerwa11Jack KlarichNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Jarhead17753Jack KlarichHarley Freewheeler /...paint job
hogmemberisold2hogmemberisoldGeneral DiscussionHow many carry spare headlight bulb...
14TG614TGHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
14TG6Papa ZookHarley Tri GlideInstalled Genuine HD Armrest kit
AriNV6Papa ZookRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6AriNVRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6pawsRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
B SMITH10rhino 2Harley Tri GlideTrailering Tri Glide
B SMITH10DK Custom ProductsHarley Tri GlideTrailering Tri Glide
AriNV6Pegasus1300Rider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6cycle7447Rider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
TomyJ16TomyJHome Built TrikesRebel RT
scaldedchevy3scaldedchevyLehman Trike2004 Gold Wing Lehman Monarch 2 Sho...
AriNV13Jack KlarichNew Member Introduct...New to trike
steelpony55553Jack KlarichDetailingCeramic coating
AriNV6Jack KlarichRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
JTJersey5Jack KlarichHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
AriNV6AriNVRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6cycle7447Rider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
AriNV6AriNVRider Safety Discuss...Maybe silly but serious question, s...
steelpony55553AriNVDetailingCeramic coating
AriNV13AriNVNew Member Introduct...New to trike
JTJersey5Old Road DogHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
paid4c410VulcanscottHonda TrikesService for differential on a Motor...
DK Custom Products362New Orleans KevinHarley Tri GlideWhat did you do to Your Tri-Glide T...
AriNV13Pegasus1300New Member Introduct...New to trike
Jarhead17753GorillaHarley Freewheeler /...paint job
New Orleans Kevin7New Orleans KevinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
TomyJ8Jack KlarichSidecar ForumHackHer
JTJersey5Jack KlarichHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
AriNV4Jack KlarichCan Am Spyder Trike...I'm a total newbie ... Is the Spyde...
ISP-FL2ISP-FLThe Knife EnthusiestBenchmade Warranty
woody13Rmitchell55Maggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
New Orleans Kevin7ISP-FLHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
woody13Marc HMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
woody13Marc HMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
woody13PosseRiderMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
ctdair8ctdairHarley Tri GlideHot Rotors After New Pads
New Orleans Kevin7NotgrownupHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
New Orleans Kevin7PanheadSteveHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
Donnimac4DonnimacHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
Donnimac4DonnimacHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
ken g9rhino 2Harley Tri Glidereverse not working
New Orleans Kevin7New Orleans KevinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
ken g9520fdHarley Tri Glidereverse not working
520fd3520fdFor Sale & WTB C...FS: Trike Mid-Step
JTJersey5JTJerseyHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
JTJersey5rhino 2Harley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
myhonda614TGHarley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
JTJersey5JTJerseyHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
ken g9ken gHarley Tri Glidereverse not working
JTJersey5rhino 2Harley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
JTJersey5JTJerseyHarley Freewheeler /...Removing Trim Around Oil Cooler
myhonda6Rogue1Harley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
myhonda614TGHarley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
AriNV4AriNVCan Am Spyder Trike...I'm a total newbie ... Is the Spyde...
TFNC12AriNVNew Member Introduct...Just saying hello
Jarhead17753Jarhead1775Harley Freewheeler /...paint job
AriNV13AriNVNew Member Introduct...New to trike
AriNV13AriNVNew Member Introduct...New to trike
myhonda6Rogue1Harley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
woody13woodyMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
myhonda6NotgrownupHarley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
New Orleans Kevin7NotgrownupHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
Donnimac4MickHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
Gernerwa11trike ladyNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
myhonda6Rmitchell55Harley Tri GlideKuryakyn filler pad
Gernerwa11GorillaNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Yannick25GorillaVW Powered TrikesWil-Mac trike kit
woody13Marc HMaggie Valley Gather...Maggie Valley 2024
Donnimac4GorillaHonda TrikesLehman Monarch II
Gernerwa11rhino 2New Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Gernerwa11Marc HNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
Gernerwa11Uncle FesterNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
MDO100ZammyHarley Freewheeler /...What Did You Do To Your Freewheeler...
Gernerwa11ZammyNew Member Introduct...New Member from Bellingham, WA
AriNV13Phu CatNew Member Introduct...New to trike
New Orleans Kevin7New Orleans KevinHarley Tri Glide2021 114 Triglide Stage 2 Feuling 4...
Jjhooker22DeathBySnuSnuVW Powered TrikesSide shifter assembly for 1980 WilM...
Rodnok12ol' schoolNew Member Introduct...Hello Honda Trike owners!
AriNV13ol' schoolNew Member Introduct...New to trike
TFNC12ol' schoolNew Member Introduct...Just saying hello
AriNV13hardwickbvNew Member Introduct...New to trike
Likes Likes:  0
Thanks Thanks:  0
Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Best Pro gun Statement

  1. #1
    1750+ Posts Trent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Meridian, ID. USA
    Posts
    1,383

    Default Best Pro gun Statement

    I really like this one...

    ============================================
    "The Gun Is Civilization"
    By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

    The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat - it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

    People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

    People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... And that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

    By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)


    John Di Angelo

  2. #2
    9750+ Posts Rod69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Lawrenceville Il. USA
    Posts
    9,689

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    Very well put.
    Rod69 Illinois TOI #900
    Joan71 Illinois TOI #901

  3. #3
    Pawn In The Game Of Life Veritas44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Aequitas, KY
    Posts
    1,058

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    +1 & <Saluting> Respects to The Major

  4. #4
    Lost In The 50's rmrc51's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Palmyra, Virginia
    Posts
    4,104

    Thumbs up Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    Excellent!

  5. #5
    1500+ Posts
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    salt lake city, ut
    Posts
    1,559

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    ....I like it a lot.......

  6. #6
    4750+ Posts msocko3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Posts
    4,592

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    Nice, thanks for posting.
    http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/...pswnuweejq.jpg
    Red Ultra Powered By Head-Quarters 120, Easy Clutch Pull By ClutchWIZ. 2012 GL1800 Hannigan. I've yet to ride a stock Harley which wasn't in need of a mechanical intervention.

  7. #7
    800+ Posts SMSgt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Cedar City, Utah, USA
    Posts
    805

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    Thanks Trent, it makes a lot of sense.

  8. #8
    200+ Posts THEREALTRIKKY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Tyler, TX
    Posts
    208

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    That's probably one of the best written and most efficiently worded gun control statement I've read to date.. very impressive, and I couldn't agree more!

  9. #9
    600+ Posts Saltywheels's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
    Posts
    639

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    Trent, I salute the Major. I am going to circulate this piece of sheer poetry to few of my 'not convinced' friends.
    You dont stop riding because you're getting old. You get old cause you stopped riding

  10. #10
    Contributing Member Charlie D's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Wilmette, Ill.
    Posts
    570

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    It is a shame that such a statement such as this simply falls on DEAF EARS such as Biden, Como,Ob. etc. their minds are made up and no common sense can prevail. Take away their secret service and armed body guard protection and they would sing a diffrent tune....
    Last edited by Charlie D; 01-16-2013 at 02:02 PM. Reason: sp

  11. #11
    Contributing Member lzski326's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Mark, Illinios 61340
    Posts
    635

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    I agree 100% Charlie

  12. #12
    1750+ Posts Trent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Meridian, ID. USA
    Posts
    1,383

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    I agree too...The politicians that make laws that affect us live in a protective bubble and have no clue about the real world. Lord help us if things keep "progressing" like they currently are.

  13. #13
    350+ Posts icedad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Ashburn, Ga
    Posts
    396

    Default Re: Best Pro gun Statement

    That is all so true. I tell my wife something similar everytime she goes out the door to Walmart at 10 o'clock at night. Bring the 38, you have to equal things out in the event of.... GREAT post!
    GWRRA, TOI, PGR, American Legion, Ga ABATE It don't matter what you ride, it's just being able to put it in the wind that does. :GL1800:

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •