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Thread: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

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    Default '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    after i got the eng oil temp 240*+ a week ago,but the temp mgt system didn't kick in. that shouldn't cause it. but i do see a quarter size drop of oil under the eng/tranny. about where the primary drain plug is but farther inbd. (drain plug) dry. as i use a new "O" ring & PFE paste.
    anyway anyone else experienceing this? an going on a 700 mi trip tomorrow
    am & will monitor it.
    i know when you change the oil filter you get oil under the eng. will scrub that area. after i returm & try to determine the leak source.

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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle1 View Post
    after i got the eng oil temp 240*+ a week ago,but the temp mgt system didn't kick in. that shouldn't cause it. but i do see a quarter size drop of oil under the eng/tranny. about where the primary drain plug is but farther inbd. (drain plug) dry. as i use a new "O" ring & PFE paste.
    anyway anyone else experienceing this? an going on a 700 mi trip tomorrow
    am & will monitor it.
    i know when you change the oil filter you get oil under the eng. will scrub that area. after i returm & try to determine the leak source.
    Watch the area under the trans right side cover. The screws tend to come loose. Right around where the header hooks on to the trans.
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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    If you are talking about temp management system that shuts off spark to rear cylinder. That needs to be actively turned on. You need to be stopped and in neutral with engine running. Twist and hold throttle forward until same light as cruise control blinks green. Now system is turned on. Repeat until red to turn off.

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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle1 View Post
    after i got the eng oil temp 240*+ a week ago,but the temp mgt system didn't kick in. that shouldn't cause it. but i do see a quarter size drop of oil under the eng/tranny. about where the primary drain plug is but farther inbd. (drain plug) dry. as i use a new "O" ring & PFE paste.
    anyway anyone else experienceing this? an going on a 700 mi trip tomorrow
    am & will monitor it.
    i know when you change the oil filter you get oil under the eng. will scrub that area. after i returm & try to determine the leak source.
    240* is nothing by the way. That is just normal. When you get over 280* , or maybe 300*+. Ya need to do something. The oil temp doesn't turn the EITMS on or off. That is done with temp sensor on the rear(I think) cylinder. But as said above, you must make sure it is turned on with the throttle & watch the cruse indicator light. Green is on.
    Harley will tell ya 300* is normal temps.......
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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle1 View Post
    after i got the eng oil temp 240*+ a week ago,but the temp mgt system didn't kick in. that shouldn't cause it. but i do see a quarter size drop of oil under the eng/tranny. about where the primary drain plug is but farther inbd. (drain plug) dry. as i use a new "O" ring & PFE paste.
    anyway anyone else experienceing this? an going on a 700 mi trip tomorrow
    am & will monitor it.
    i know when you change the oil filter you get oil under the eng. will scrub that area. after i returm & try to determine the leak source.
    I'll bet your leaking from the shifter shaft where it goes into the transmission, its common for this seal to fail and begine leaking. Its a PIA to replace because you have to pull the whole inner primary off.
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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    I'll bet your leaking from the shifter shaft where it goes into the transmission, its common for this seal to fail and begine leaking. Its a PIA to replace because you have to pull the whole inner primary off.
    Yep, that's what it sounded like to me when I read the OP.
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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    thats what i was thinking. read the manual about the eitms then asked a dealer mech. he said i had to hold the throttle in the fwd positionto get it to activate. at the time i just went around the traffic so i could get air flow. thanks msocko3 about the shifter shaft. glad it under e/w.

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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle1 View Post
    thats what i was thinking. read the manual about the eitms then asked a dealer mech. he said i had to hold the throttle in the fwd positionto get it to activate. at the time i just went around the traffic so i could get air flow. thanks msocko3 about the shifter shaft. glad it under e/w.
    Good you have the e/w, sad part is this happens fairly often. I've replaced the seal twice on my 06 Ultra in 38,000 miles. Mines stands out like a sore thumb because I used Redline Shockproof which is pepto pink.
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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    Hell I have had oil all over my trike stator plug,oil pan bolts loose,side trans cover bolts loose. All seems to migrate all over.. have you looked under your trike yet??
    And all under 8k on the bike..

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    i also use r/l shockproof gear lube.& my oil drops are eng oil. i had used blue thread locker on the trans side cover screws (ya know if you cut off some of the short end of the allen wrench you can remove the trans cover screws without removeing the exhaust) & i gave the "O" ring a butter lube of permatex non-hardening sealant when i installed it. when i replaced the clutch cable.(installed paul y 10" bagger bars.)
    half way on my trip ,all freeway) eng oil only down 1/4" on dipstick.thats about right
    , the last 1000 miles i lost just under 3/4 qt. i have the baker plus 1 oil pan. had the rear-end adjusted & drive belt still rubs tranny case slightly. wonder if they make a 1/8" narrorer belt. & wonder if that would help. guess the is a good excuse to get the
    rock center groove worn belt replaced & get a 30T. pulley.man!! i hate 30 t. pulley.
    in the 6 gear.
    when in 5th. at about 2700 rpm, sounds like eng wants me to shift, but when i do
    i'm lugging the eng in 6 th gear at 60 1 or2 .guess i'll have to ride the shoveelhead.

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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle1 View Post
    i also use r/l shockproof gear lube.& my oil drops are eng oil. i had used blue thread locker on the trans side cover screws (ya know if you cut off some of the short end of the allen wrench you can remove the trans cover screws without removeing the exhaust) & i gave the "O" ring a butter lube of permatex non-hardening sealant when i installed it. when i replaced the clutch cable.(installed paul y 10" bagger bars.)
    half way on my trip ,all freeway) eng oil only down 1/4" on dipstick.thats about right
    , the last 1000 miles i lost just under 3/4 qt. i have the baker plus 1 oil pan. had the rear-end adjusted & drive belt still rubs tranny case slightly. wonder if they make a 1/8" narrorer belt. & wonder if that would help. guess the is a good excuse to get the
    rock center groove worn belt replaced & get a 30T. pulley.man!! i hate 30 t. pulley.
    in the 6 gear.
    when in 5th. at about 2700 rpm, sounds like eng wants me to shift, but when i do
    i'm lugging the eng in 6 th gear at 60 1 or2 .guess i'll have to ride the shoveelhead.
    Well that rules out the shifter shaft seal, you should be able to slide underneath and spot where its coming from. If your belts been rubbing the pan I hope it didn't rub through, left side of the pan would be motor oil.
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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    tightened up the oil filter about 1/2-3/4"& power washed the under side of the trike.
    here in central Mo. I44 is closed at Rolla both directions. Ft. Wood 10-12" rain this past week. hwy. Patrol says maybe open sat IF no more rain. BUT there more rain on radar.
    suunday is suppose to be clear & i'll head east to indy. 80% chance of rain tonight.

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    Default Re: '09 t/g down 3/4 qt. at 26K

    A quarter sized oil stain isn't a whole lot of oil. It could have accumulated from your breather and just pooled where it dripped off. Clean the underside and see if it happens again. If you take it to a dealer for a 'quarter sized drip' I doubt they will find anything.

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