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Thread: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

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    Default No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Well this is a new one for me. Started 2004 wing up and no headlights? Turned key to shut bike off and it just kept running? Then I unhooked the battery and it still kept on running with all the lights lit minus the head lights. Hit high beam button(why I do not know) engine shut down as did rest of the lights! Also my 4 ways not working either I did not try turn signals. Maybe this could be key or switch problem? This is my first 1800 so I am just getting to know this trike. I sprayed Radio Shack cleaner in ignition switch but did not help

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?



    I'd say Best choices are:
    1. GOOD Honda Cert. Tech
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    2. Priest

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Piper View Post
    Well this is a new one for me. Started 2004 wing up and no headlights? Turned key to shut bike off and it just kept running? Then I unhooked the battery and it still kept on running with all the lights lit minus the head lights. Hit high beam button(why I do not know) engine shut down as did rest of the lights! Also my 4 ways not working either I did not try turn signals. Maybe this could be key or switch problem? This is my first 1800 so I am just getting to know this trike. I sprayed Radio Shack cleaner in ignition switch but did not help
    WOW! That is a bunch of problems.... Did they all show up at once? If not break them out into a sequence then maybe we can help.

    I've never. Heard of a bad GL1800 ignition switch but that don't mean yours isn't. I know the dimmer and starter switch can cause no lights and the hazard switch could kill that function.

    My first guess is the dimmer switch is dirty causing intermittent no lights so with the battery disconnected you flipped the dimmer and it put a heavy load on the alternator. Voltage dropped and engine died.

    What caused the no ignition switch working is a mystery. Keep us posted.
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    I'm like an old race horse..... I can still run the race -- Just ache more at the finish line and need more rest between outings.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    I Will be working on this problem Monday AM. Thinking back as to what I did, I hit the 4 way button by mistake instead of running lights switch and that's when every thing went nuts all at once. But I never on 3 boards have I ever heard some one say there engine would not shut off with the key! I will check fuses, then go after 4 way switch. I will indeed keep all posted as to what happens about all this.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    I agree that it's a strange one. I wonder what would happen if the run relay hung??? HUMMMMMM.... I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for sure.
    Jerry "Gold Rush" (aka: "SPOOK") San Angelo, TX
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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas44 View Post


    I'd say Best choices are:
    1. GOOD Honda Cert. Tech
    or
    2. Priest
    I'd roll with both just to cover my a$$. I'll be watching this thread to see how the OP makes out, I hate electrical gremlins. One of the reasons my 12 doesn't have all kinds of electrical doo dads added too it.
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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Spraying the ignition cylinder wont do anything.
    The electrical ignition switch is a separate switch at the bottom of the key cylinder.
    Id start with the headlight switch and look from there.
    I think with most of us electrical is always the least known part of anything with a motor.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Well, looks like bike will be heading to the shop. Since nothing was wrong till I pushed hazard light switch I am sure that is my problem. Seems some how my file that had my Goldwing manual down loaded to is not there. After looking at the back side of that switch I feel It is not some thing I need to mess with. I need to buy a paper manual and spend some time with it. Let you know what tech will due to fix it.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    you might try getting in touch with technidude on the gl1800riders forum before you take to shop. it may be a bad ground under the seat.

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    Thumbs up Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    My guess would be either the head light switch or the starter switch. When you press the starter switch the lights will go out. It may be sticking.
    Contact: techdude2000 on the GL1800riders forum and he will fix you right up. He is extremely knowledgeable on the GL1800's.

    Hope this helps

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    As to me asking Tech dude for help! For the last 3 months I can no longer get my name and pass word to work on that site. I have no clue what the problem is. And of course I am not able because of this to get in touch with man running the site. I do not think Lamonster operates that site any longer.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Lamont sold it to a Canadian Company but the Admins and Mods are the same.
    Go to the Home Page without logging in and click on "Contact". Then you can send a message describing the issue with your User ID and they will fix it. You May have to re-Register.
    They are understaffed and most of them have "regular" jobs as well. Takes time.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    What the heck! Went to GL1800 site and I was already signed in? I have sent Tech Dude a private E-mail. Thanks for all the info to all of you. I am going to try one more time to clean the 4-way switch.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Piper View Post
    What the heck! Went to GL1800 site and I was already signed in? I have sent Tech Dude a private E-mail. Thanks for all the info to all of you. I am going to try one more time to clean the 4-way switch.
    Did you get my PM?
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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Not starter involved. If u do not hear the stater grinding then not doing anything with starer system. Fact u removed battery says tat bike is running on alternator perfectly normal. You have a bad ignition switch or a wire broken or touching together. Does kill switch kill the bike?
    When I am gona fix something I will fix it. You don't have to bug me every 6 months.
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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Yes Cavie, I got your PM. Thank you.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Luciano View Post
    Not starter involved. If u do not hear the stater grinding then not doing anything with starer system. Fact u removed battery says tat bike is running on alternator perfectly normal. You have a bad ignition switch or a wire broken or touching together. Does kill switch kill the bike?
    Kill switch will not always shut bike off? I have been told by a good tech that just mite be the common ground plate or board that is under the shelter behind the head light! Bike will be hauled to the shop next week.
    Again thanks to all that replied to my post. and I will post when tech finds out what is going on.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Just talked to the shop fixing the bike and for sure it is a ground problem. He ran a jumper ground wire to one of the headlights and every thing lit up. Seems it could be that common ground junction thingie up under the front end.

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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Piper View Post
    Just talked to the shop fixing the bike and for sure it is a ground problem. He ran a jumper ground wire to one of the headlights and every thing lit up. Seems it could be that common ground junction thingie up under the front end.
    I get mine out of the shop Wed. Yours done by then? Meet at BP Wed night? KSU 7 PM. Ride TBD.
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    Default Re: No headlights and engine will not shut off ?

    Be sure you check the one under the seat also.

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