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Thread: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

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    Default Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    It's that time of year again when cabin fever is starting to get to me and I find myself contemplating new mods. I told myself when I got the trike that I would no longer be concerned with performance, that I got it just to enjoy cruising around.

    I've been thinking of the following choices:

    1. Level B heads and TW555 cams.

    2. 107 full bore kit and using stock heads.

    3. Both choices 1 and 2.

    4. Considering the TW222 cam as well.

    Just trying to figure out the best bang for the buck. I know there is no replacement for displacement. To my untrained eye there doesn't seem to be that much of a difference in the dyno charts between my choices. I very rarely ride over 3500 and usually use 4000 as my shift point.

    Let the debate begin......
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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    You know..... If you only go with step #1, you will always wonder if you should have gone all the way.

    If you already have it opened up to do the cams and heads, you're 3/4 of the way there.

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    Stick with your 1st three lines, you'll be a happy guy .
    I've suffered a great many catastrophes in my life....
    most of them never happened.;)

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    I don't understand the math, rarely ride over 3500 but shift at 4000. Your moving along quickly, go for it all!

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    I enjoy the feel of acceleration. Once at speed on the highway I settle down to around 3000 rpm. On the back roads, generally around 2500-2800.
    2012 Trike, FM107, Wood 555 cams, CNC "B" Heads

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    I wouldn't do a 107" for the cylinder walls are bored very thin and you will not get the longevity out of the engine you expect. If your gonna pop the heads and do a larger bore, I would suggest going to a 113" or 117" and get the full engine treatment. Or buy a S&S 124LC engine and sell off the 103" to recoup some funds.

    If your gonna keep the engine work to just the FM type setup I would suggest the S&S has a 106" kit that I think has better cylinders and pistons with the 551C cams.

    Another suggestion would be to go .10 or .20 over on your current 103" cylinders with new forged pistons and some head work to improve the flow along with a cam set that pulls a 2 wheel bike into the 110-113 torque range and call it a day.
    Overcoming Adversity is the path to better ideas!!

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    Although I have a 2013 Trike w/120r Crate motor with some additional minor upgrades from the OEM 120r and am extremely happy with the performance, a good riding buddy has a 2013 Anniversary Trike and he went with the Fuel Moto upgrades which included the TW222 cams, ceramic power duals, Reinhardt Slip-ons, Fuel Moto high performance A/C, SE Adj Push Rods, and the Dynojet Power Vision Tuner with the Auto Tune module. The bike dynoed out at 95hp and 112tq with these mods. Very good performance down low, as the intake valve closes at 34 degrees (I believe) which makes this a low to mid-range cam. The advantage is that he was able to stay with the OEM valve springs and not messing with the OEM compression ratio.

    I would highly recommend contacting either Bryon or Jamie at Fuel Moto and discuss you riding habits and see what they have to say as a package deal. Great people to work with. If I am not mistaken, Jamie (Owner) worked with Bob Woods to develop the TW222 cams specifically for the TriGlide in order to get the heavy bike moving off the line.

    Take care, ride safe, and good luck with whatever you decide to do!!

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    Sorry but a stock 103" in a trike with cams is not making 112tq. Thats a happy dyno it was tuned on. Take 10-15% off of that number and i would begin to believe it.
    Overcoming Adversity is the path to better ideas!!

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    FLTR2008TRIKE,

    Do you have a good link to S&S? I want to read more about the S&S 124LC but when I try, there site is all messed up for me?

    I am thinkin about some different ideas, (wife don't agree) but......

    eighty80.

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    Quote Originally Posted by eighty80 View Post
    FLTR2008TRIKE,

    Do you have a good link to S&S? I want to read more about the S&S 124LC but when I try, there site is all messed up for me?

    I am thinkin about some different ideas, (wife don't agree) but......

    eighty80.
    Message sent
    Overcoming Adversity is the path to better ideas!!

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    Custom made right side shifter (Lost my left leg above the knee due to a hit n run driver) SOOS's custom made floorboard spacer

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    If you really want the 107 take a look at TMAN Performance, talk to them. Web site is user friendly.

    tmanperformance.com

    The 107 Nikasil cylinders are not bored, they were born as a 107 and TMAN has some very strong mods.

    I have the 107 Nikasil cylinders with 10.5 to 1 , stage 3 heads, 55TB and 625 cams in my deluxe.....yes it is an animal! Honestly it is overkill.

    If I do the trike, it will be A/C, Exhaust and Cams for low end performance. It's all about TQ.
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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    Quote Originally Posted by FLTR2008TRIKE View Post
    Message sent
    Got it, thank's Tom.

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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    Quote Originally Posted by eighty80 View Post
    FLTR2008TRIKE,

    Do you have a good link to S&S? I want to read more about the S&S 124LC but when I try, there site is all messed up for me?

    I am thinkin about some different ideas, (wife don't agree) but......

    eighty80.
    You poor man, you've been bitten by the bug bad.
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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    Quote Originally Posted by eighty80 View Post
    FLTR2008TRIKE,

    Do you have a good link to S&S? I want to read more about the S&S 124LC but when I try, there site is all messed up for me?

    I am thinkin about some different ideas, (wife don't agree) but......

    eighty80.
    Download their catalog & most of the information is in it. If you want more info give them a call. I would look somewhere around the 113"HD, or the 117" unless You are thinking about going a whole engine complete . The catalog gives ya numbers & costs to work with a bit. & also phone numbers......
    http://www.sscycle.com/catalogs
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    Default Re: Fuel Moto 107 Decisions????

    Quote Originally Posted by msocko3 View Post
    You poor man, you've been bitten by the bug bad.
    Yea, I know... bad isn't it?

    Had the open heart Oct. 15th, between that and the cold winter, I've been in this house ever since.

    Doc says, "a good 4 months". That will be Feb, 15th. Then we will see....

    Later, eighty80.


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