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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    I have just installed a Michelin Commander on my trike and would like to know what the break in process is for this tire. Thanks, Bud.

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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Well I'm confused, if its for the GL1500 in the Avatar that should be a 160/80X16 size and they do not make the Commander II in that size / now they do make it in a 150/80X16 which is slightly slimer. They do show to be Bias Ply and in that size its a Rear Tire for your front. I've never used that tire so I guess you will be our tester... I'd run it just like the Pilot Activ at 40 - 41 PSI and keep us informed about mileage....

    Guess you'll be able to tell us how they work on the front of the GL 1500.... Keep us informed....
    Last edited by Solidbob; 08-16-2014 at 09:21 AM. Reason: OOPs redo....

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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    If I remember right it was 130/70hX18 and so far it rides a lot smoother than the radial tire I replaced.

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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Quote Originally Posted by bustedwing View Post
    If I remember right it was 130/70hX18 and so far it rides a lot smoother than the radial tire I replaced.
    You must own a GL1800.....

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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Quote Originally Posted by RichM View Post
    Thank you Bob, very informative. I am having my conversion done as we speak and since I am a newbee to trikes did not know about replacing the front tire with a rear for better performance. I am going to replace my stock front with the Michelin. Since we are on the conversation of tires, when I choose my Motor Trike kit there was an option for the rear to upgrade from 15" to 17". I called MT and they said it is just a matter of preferance/apperance that it will not effect performance. Any opinions on this? Thank you.
    Depending on tire profile used by MT the 15" may be easier to work with and clear the fenders easier. Most companies that offer different sizes of rims make up the changes in profile by height so the 17" wheels will use low profile tires I bet to keep the speedo near correct.... Just FYI


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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Good info. thx.

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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Bridgestone rear tires wore out in 8k?
    If it is on the font , than read about rear tire mounted on front in different section of this forum.
    When I am gona fix something I will fix it. You don't have to bug me every 6 months.
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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    PO put 17" on rear of 2003 GW/Roadsmith. Not raked, no Super Brace. I get lots of headshake when weight is shifted during shifting & decelerating. It's new to me so I'm still getting used to this trike. Should I look towards rake kit, Super Brace, or play with the rear tire pressure? Or, "I" might need more miles on it 1st to get more experience? I've tried 24 to 28 lbs so far.
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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Many thanks!!!

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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    This is probably elementary to you guys, but my Honda trike has a bias tire in the steer and radials on the rear. Why is that? Also does a rake make steer tires last longer of do I need one? I was told it makes big difference in handling and stops low speed shimmy.

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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Your drive tires can be radials, but your front tire should be a Bias Ply Rear Sportbike tire in the correct size for your front tire. The stock radial bike tires were made for a leaning bike to stay in the middle of the tire, and radials tend to roll on their sides when used with a raked non- leaning trike. The bias tire will have almost twice the amount of rubber in a wider center tire area, and the Bias tire has a stronger sidewall and won't roll in turns. Most trike guys like the MPA Michelin Pilot Activ or the BT45 Bridgestone Battleax ... if you have a non raked trike they are harder to steer as you steer a trike not lean, adding a EZ Steer or rake kit 4.5 to 6 degrees will give you power steering, and takes a bit to change-over to but your arms will thank you if riding twisty roads...
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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Got some Q's need some A's I have a '96 GL1500A w/Motor Trike conversion. My rear tires are BF Goodrich Radial T/A P225/60 R15 95S M+S and are in good shape. My front tire is a Dunlop 130/70 B18 63H with only 2/32nds tread left. I want to replace it with an Avon Cobra AV71 130/70 R18.These tires came with my purchase. Am I climbing the wrong tree? Thanks for your input.
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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Quote Originally Posted by Ol' Man Jeb View Post
    Got some Q's need some A's I have a '96 GL1500A w/Motor Trike conversion. My rear tires are BF Goodrich Radial T/A P225/60 R15 95S M+S and are in good shape. My front tire is a Dunlop 130/70 B18 63H with only 2/32nds tread left. I want to replace it with an Avon Cobra AV71 130/70 R18.These tires came with my purchase. Am I climbing the wrong tree? Thanks for your input.
    You are on the right track IMO. I will get the Avon when my B.S. is done.

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    Default Re: The Tire Thread / Answers Questions / Gives Options / Use at your own risk.FYI -

    Any more "experience" with the Avon Trike front tire would be appreciated.

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    Default STATES: COBRA TRIKE on the tire....

    Just make sure you are buying the correct tire for a TRIKE.. this WILL be a Radial Tire #90000020646 (Do Not Mount Reverse)
    I have no experience with this tire yet but will change to it next time if everyone claims show good results....

    Avon Front Cobra Trike AV71 130/70R-18 Blackwall Tire - 90000020646


    Overview of Avon Front Cobra Trike AV71 130/70R-18 Blackwall Tire - 90000020646

    Specially designed for Trikes, the new Avon Cobra Trike is the perfect choice for this increasingly popular, easy to handle, three-wheel motorcycle option. Made with the exceptional technology that has gone into the development of the other Cobra products in the line, the new Cobra Trike tire offers a flatter lean profile for longer wear, better handling and stability.
    • Advanced Variable Belt Density (A-VBD) construction uses a densely wrapped belt in the center of the tire for stability, wear and mileage
    • Belt is less dense on shoulder for a huge, compliant contact patch
    • Lifetime Profile Engineering (LPE) for consistent handling and stability for the life of the tire
    • Enhanced Aqua Flow (EAF) tread pattern for optimal water dispersal
    • Enhanced Stability System (ESS) design reduces tire flex for improved grip and stability
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    Default No Changes I see...

    This is from the AVON NORTH AMERICA site and I see only (2) two changes and that is the addition of Free Road Hazard Warranty and adding 15,000 miles Mileage warranty... Tire numbers are all the same.... Make sure to copy this for warranty situations.. Here's a copy and paste....:







    Cobra Trike

    Style and performance for cruisers, customs and tourers



    • Road Hazard Warranty included
    • 15,000 Mile Warranty included
    • Specifically designed for the GL1800 front trike
    • Flatter profile to resist the scrubbing off effect normally seen on front tires
    • Bigger blocks of rubber to resist irregular wear
    • Sidewall has “Trike” emblazoned on it to differentiate from regular motorcycle tires
    • Special construction to deal with heavy loads






    Cobra Trike Front

    AV Model

    Tire Size

    Service Index

    Rec Rim

    Rim Min-Max

    OW mm

    OW Inches

    OD mm

    OD Inches

    Depth mm

    Revs per km

    Revs per Mile

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    90000020646

    AV71

    130/70R18

    63V

    MT3.50

    3.50 - 4.00

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    5.00

    648

    25.5

    4.5

    505

    813





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    Quote Originally Posted by Solidbob View Post
    Your drive tires can be radials, but your front tire should be a Bias Ply Rear Sportbike tire in the correct size for your front tire. The stock radial bike tires were made for a leaning bike to stay in the middle of the tire, and radials tend to roll on their sides when used with a raked non- leaning trike. The bias tire will have almost twice the amount of rubber in a wider center tire area, and the Bias tire has a stronger sidewall and won't roll in turns. Most trike guys like the MPA Michelin Pilot Activ or the BT45 Bridgestone Battleax ... if you have a non raked trike they are harder to steer as you steer a trike not lean, adding a EZ Steer or rake kit 4.5 to 6 degrees will give you power steering, and takes a bit to change-over to but your arms will thank you if riding twisty roads...
    Solidbob, I just triked a "98 Valkyrie that had recently new tires. The front tire is a Dunlap 150/80/R17 72H. There is a 6 degree raked tree on it. I have pushed the trike pretty hard through a couple of corners. At least what I felt was hard . I get what you are saying about leaning a bike vs driving a trike through the corners, so, the questions is, until such time that the front tire needs replaced how agressive should I be in the corners?

    Or, would it be best to lay back a little?

    Also, it appears that when it is time to replace the front rubber it will have to be bias ply. Should they run in a certain direction?

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    I also have Valkyrie Trike.

    I use a Dunlop 404 130/90-17 bias rear on the front in a reverse rotation.

    It has 16,400 on so far, and it still passes the “Penny Test”.

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    Default Front tire throws off the speedo

    I have a 2000 Valkyrie I/S with a Motor Trike kit on it. It has a MPA 150/70/17 rear tire on the front, and it throws my speedometer off by 4-5 miles. Is there anything I can do to get closer to the correct speed. Right now, when I am showing 70 on the speedometer, I am actually only doing about 65-66(according to my gps).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike in Ar View Post
    I have a 2000 Valkyrie I/S with a Motor Trike kit on it. It has a MPA 150/70/17 rear tire on the front, and it throws my speedometer off by 4-5 miles. Is there anything I can do to get closer to the correct speed. Right now, when I am showing 70 on the speedometer, I am actually only doing about 65-66(according to my gps).
    I've owned (& ridden for myself) a '97 Tourer & a '98 Triked Standard. I also re-habbed (bought/repaired/sold) four others. Every one of them had the same speedometer discrepancy. Even when dark-sided, I never went short enough on the tire to make much difference.

    I just had to learn to ride, figuring in the 5 mph fast reading.
    Last edited by keepinon; 08-30-2016 at 08:52 PM.

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