Built my 1st one about 40 years ago - a Lithia Automotive VW 'kit' (piece of pipe with HD neck welded on, 1/4" steel plate at the back to weld to horns, and a metalflake green fiberglass body). Last project (about 8 years ago) was a from scratch VW, started with a Cyclestyle frame - which I loved - totally did away with VW suspension, used coil over shocks). I've spent more time on 3 than 2 over the past 40 years, and ready to go back to 3 this winter.