When I try and run auto tune everything goes good until I try and start bike to ride it and the screen goes back to start, almost like bike shuts off, anyone else ?
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When I try and run auto tune everything goes good until I try and start bike to ride it and the screen goes back to start, almost like bike shuts off, anyone else ?
Another question took bike to Harley Dealer to have dyno. He told me that the power vision was in a recovery mode and had to start from scratch erasing my maps from Jamie, first of all the power vision is married to that bike not sure how he got by that. I am going to talk to Jamie on Monday.
Can the power vision in any way turn off cooling fans ?
Another question took bike to Harley Dealer to have dyno. He told me that the power vision was in a recovery mode and had to start from scratch erasing my maps from Jamie, first of all the power vision is married to that bike not sure how he got by that. I am going to talk to Jamie on Monday.
Can the power vision in any way turn off cooling fans ?
Been watching this thread closely. I to am new to PV. Map from Jamie came close to my present cams but I can tell it needs an adjustment. What map do use as a donor map to start AT and what happens to the map your running bike with to use AT? My original map was a MOCO download stage 1. I surely can't use this map with PV or can I? I printed the user guide from PV but can't find an answer written in stone. I'd use the original map if nothing else, but that's why I opted for PV hoping to have more choices if needed.
thanks dan
Colonial Harley Davidson did the dyno , when I ran it for a week 600 miles and had no better gas mileage , performance or cooling I opened power vision and seen that my two maps ( original and one from fuel moto ) were gone. Called dealer and they told me when I dropped bike off the power vision was in recovery mode so my stuff was erased. On my home from trip I noticed a little anti freeze on right floor board , stopped at dealership lead mechanic came out lit cigarette bent over by bike and said yup you have a problem. Next thing he did was open hot radiator cap anti freeze blew everywhere. I called my dealer he said go somewhere else, mechanic said he would wash off bike around back, after hanging up with dealer I walked around back to find mechanic reading book and taking wires and fuses out. Finally ordered him to put bike back together and left. Dealer told me to try and over ride fans did not work so drove another 5 hours 80 degrees plus temps. no lights ever came on. Dropped it off at my dealer Saturday called me to ask about tuner I have no original map to load. He is saying might void warranty. Sorry so long !!!
I would start by getting in contact with Jamie and asking him for a copy of the map you need. The 2nd thing I would do is auto tune the map Jamie sends you vs taking it to a dealer. I have this bad feeling the folks at Colonial really screwed the pooch on the map they have in there.
As for the dealer stating warranty may be void, he is right, all he has to do is contact the MoCo and its game over for your powertrain warranty.
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What folks don't consider when they start adding tuners, aftermarket head pipes, cams, even aftermarket Stage 1 air cleaners. They all can have an impact on the warranty. Harley as the manufacturer is administering the 2 year unlimited mileage warranty which comes on a new bike or trike. There are some things we as owners can do which will void all or parts of the warranty. Adding a tuner, yep, if it isn't a Harley Davidson approved tuner, installed by a Harley Davidson dealer, your powertrain warranty can be void.
When I say Harley approved tuner, the only tuner approved by Harley is the Screaming Eagle Street Performance tuner PN 41000008B, or a dealer download from the digital tech. The down side to this tuner is only canned EPA maps for 50 state legal Harley parts can be used. The map can't be smart tuned, or modified to make performance increases beyond what will remain 50 state legal.
Put on an exhaust system which removes the cat, the dealer can drop a dime on you and have the powertrain warranty void. If they really want to be nasty they could notify the state or federal EPA about you tampering with emissions equipment. Add an Arlen Ness big sucker air cleaner or any brand of aftermarket stage 1 type air cleaners, it could impact the powertrain warranty.
When it comes to performance parts, if you want to keep your warranty, you have to play by their game. Only Harley Davidson and EPA approved parts and downloads, installed by a Harley Davidson dealer. Some dealers turn a blind eye and allow customers to make changes, or tell the customer they (The Dealer) will warranty the modifications. The pitfall of the blind eye or dealer warranty is, be 1,000 miles from home and break down. The dealer you need to get you home, may not turn a blind eye. They just may say sorry about your luck, we won't touch it under warranty, while they call the MoCo and ask what should they do about the situation. The MoCo will also say sorry about your luck.
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Myself, I do what I want and don't worry too much about warranty. If the dealer will fix things under warranty, great. If they won't, fine. But then I don't need the dealer, I do my own work. Unfortunately you have walked into a warranty mine field, getting out of it may be next to impossible. The dealer and Harley Davidson hold all the cards.
Some more thoughts on tuners and tuning. A simple Stage 1 tune is a pretty simple deal, even Stage 2 can be pretty easy for the most part. However, a bunch of auto tune runs does not make a tune. There are times where timing needs addressed, cranking fuel, warm up enrichment, the AFR in the idle area. Does the bike or trike start correctly, does it pop or backfire on decel, does it buck or hesitate when cold and warming up, does it ping or just run hot.
All of these could be parts of the tune which needs tweaked, and not all of them can be taken care of by just auto tuning the hell out of it. Take timing for instance, it can cause both pinging and heat. To much timing and it can ping, to little timing and it can run warm. Go the extreme end of to little timing and the combustion takes place so late, it can still be taking place when the exhaust valve is starting to open. This can lead to exhaust valve damage, which means $$$ to pull the head and have it repaired.
Thankfully, like I said, Stage 1 tunes are pretty straight forward. Now increase compression, port the heads, install some wilder cams. You better know what your doing, it won't be as simple as an auto tune. You may have to tweak multiple tables to get it right.
I'd be real interested to see the map your dealer left you with.
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