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    I would like to get some inputs on a roadside option for getting under a trike.

    Trike is a 2012 GL1800 with a Lehman Monarch II kit with ground effects. Also
    the Trike has a Lehman trailer hitch in place.

    If a floor jack was available and the front wheel on the ground but chocked can I lift the rear of the trike safely by placing the jack directly under the ball or flat portion of the hitch? Is there a danger in having the entire rear weight of the trike being put on the frame along without any other support?


    Thanks for your inputs

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    Quote Originally Posted by durango9 View Post
    I would like to get some inputs on a roadside option for getting under a trike.

    Trike is a 2012 GL1800 with a Lehman Monarch II kit with ground effects. Also
    the Trike has a Lehman trailer hitch in place.

    If a floor jack was available and the front wheel on the ground but chocked can I lift the rear of the trike safely by placing the jack directly under the ball or flat portion of the hitch? Is there a danger in having the entire rear weight of the trike being put on the frame along without any other support?


    Thanks for your inputs
    Your question is a little vague. Unless it's a "what if" type question..... To remove a rear tire, you could probably do something like that as long as you had someone to hold the other tire on the ground for stability. Some trike kit trailer hitches would not hold the load. Might do some checking before attempting such. I'd never lift both rear wheels off the ground at the same time. VERY UNSTABLE.... As for doing any under the trike maintenance on a jack -- I don't thing so. Just too risky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Rush View Post
    As for doing any under the trike maintenance on a jack -- I don't thing so. Just too risky.

    Ditto ... I recommend a wheel chock for the front wheel ... jack up one rear at a time put a jack stand under it ... then repeat for the other side. Safety first.

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    Ditto
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    To answer your question. Yes you can lift it by the hitch. I've done it on my Hannigan but I would never work under it when it's up like that as it will be very unstable. Unless you have jack stands you need to keep two wheels on the ground and have the front chocked at a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWATC View Post
    To answer your question. Yes you can lift it by the hitch. I've done it on my Hannigan but I would never work under it when it's up like that as it will be very unstable. Unless you have jack stands you need to keep two wheels on the ground and have the front chocked at a minimum.
    Thanks for the response.
    The inquiry I post was a result of getting some wire wrapped around a fixed axle and disc brake section of the undercarriage. It is impossible to get at cutting it away unless the rear of the trike is lifted. I actually had to put some logs under the wheels.

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    I was told by my installer for the csc kit that to lift under the rear end. Best to call or email your brand kit for the best advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schiel1 View Post
    I was told by my installer for the csc kit that to lift under the rear end. Best to call or email your brand kit for the best advice.
    Here is an article from last years wing world magazine from Stu the mechanic.*

    I can’t find this particular subject covered in the owner’s manual, but it’s some of the worst advice I’ve ever heard a Honda Service associate give to a Gold Wing owner. Firstly, reverse is not a transmission gear. It engages the starter motor with the output shaft using a series of shafts, gears, sensors and pulleys. The transmission itself will actually be in neutral, and any significant force acting fore or aft on the bike such as parking on a steep grade or a theft attempt could damage components in the system. If the bike is on a steep grade when shut off in reverse, it may not disengage without first relieving the force by pushing the bike upslope slightly. Secondly (as you know), unlike on the GL1500, the GL1800 reverse mechanism will not operate without electrical power. Yes, this makes it impossible to get the bike out of reverse without the key. But what happens if the owner returns to the bike and finds the battery dead or for some reason the reverse button doesn’t work? If you’re out somewhere in the boondocks, you could be boarding the Shoe Leather Express. Both of these scenarios have been reported to me numerous times, and I’ve even responded to several urgent pleas for help when the owner had simply forgotten he’d turned the bike off in reverse and his engine now won’t start. So do as you like, but at least you know the possible unintended consequences. Regarding the damage caused by the disc lock, this can easily be avoided by placing a red ribbon somewhere in your line of sight when seated on the bike as a reminder to remove the lock — or, for that matter, as a reminder that you left the bike in reverse.




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    Quote Originally Posted by schiel1 View Post
    Here is an article from last years wing world magazine from Stu the mechanic.*

    I can’t find this particular subject covered in the owner’s manual, but it’s some of the worst advice I’ve ever heard a Honda Service associate give to a Gold Wing owner. Firstly, reverse is not a transmission gear. It engages the starter motor with the output shaft using a series of shafts, gears, sensors and pulleys. The transmission itself will actually be in neutral, and any significant force acting fore or aft on the bike such as parking on a steep grade or a theft attempt could damage components in the system. If the bike is on a steep grade when shut off in reverse, it may not disengage without first relieving the force by pushing the bike upslope slightly. Secondly (as you know), unlike on the GL1500, the GL1800 reverse mechanism will not operate without electrical power. Yes, this makes it impossible to get the bike out of reverse without the key. But what happens if the owner returns to the bike and finds the battery dead or for some reason the reverse button doesn’t work? If you’re out somewhere in the boondocks, you could be boarding the Shoe Leather Express. Both of these scenarios have been reported to me numerous times, and I’ve even responded to several urgent pleas for help when the owner had simply forgotten he’d turned the bike off in reverse and his engine now won’t start. So do as you like, but at least you know the possible unintended consequences. Regarding the damage caused by the disc lock, this can easily be avoided by placing a red ribbon somewhere in your line of sight when seated on the bike as a reminder to remove the lock — or, for that matter, as a reminder that you left the bike in reverse.
    Stu
    Sorry about this entry. I was replying from my phone and I guess pasted it into the wrong thread. Wonder why I never saw it posted

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