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Thread: Tri Glide Brake Light add-on

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    Default Tri Glide Brake Light add-on

    I confess to be less than brilliant when it comes to bike wiring, so that said.... I have a light bar that I'd like to mount basically behind the rear bumper. I don't want to use it as a running light, just the flash function it has when the brakes are applied. But as I started this task - I have come to realize {I think} that the brake and turn signal feeds are one and the same. Anyone know where or how to wire just the brake light? It's a three wire light bar - Ground - Running lights - Brake function. Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc1300 View Post
    I confess to be less than brilliant when it comes to bike wiring, so that said.... I have a light bar that I'd like to mount basically behind the rear bumper. I don't want to use it as a running light, just the flash function it has when the brakes are applied. But as I started this task - I have come to realize {I think} that the brake and turn signal feeds are one and the same. Anyone know where or how to wire just the brake light? It's a three wire light bar - Ground - Running lights - Brake function. Thanks guys

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    Check your rear upper trunk as there are connectors under the carpet you can plug into for brake lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    Check your rear upper trunk as there are connectors under the carpet you can plug into for brake lights.
    Thanks Mutha....Would there be a dedicated wire for the brake only?

    jc

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc1300 View Post
    Thanks Mutha....Would there be a dedicated wire for the brake only?

    jc

    With your 2014+ models they are wired for the fender tail lights to be Run-Brake-Turn. This means that you have a wire dedicated to the running lights, then you have one wire that functions as the Left Signal AND Brake Light and another wire that functions as the Right Signal AND Brake Light.

    With the BCM (Body Control Module) on the 14+ bikes I am not sure you can find a wire that functions only as a brake light.

    A very long shot would be to get between one of the brake levers and the BCM. Those are low amp wires, so you would have to use a different power source and a relay...BUT, I am not sure that that would not contaminate the CanBUS and either cause it not to work properly, or, at the least throw an error code.

    Perhaps someone else has better information. The above is what we have seen when working on our various LED options for the rear of the newer bikes and trikes.

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    What year TG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc1300 View Post
    Thanks Mutha....Would there be a dedicated wire for the brake only?

    jc
    Oops...I probably should have asked you first what year bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK Custom Products View Post
    With your 2014+ models they are wired for the fender tail lights to be Run-Brake-Turn. This means that you have a wire dedicated to the running lights, then you have one wire that functions as the Left Signal AND Brake Light and another wire that functions as the Right Signal AND Brake Light.

    With the BCM (Body Control Module) on the 14+ bikes I am not sure you can find a wire that functions only as a brake light.

    A very long shot would be to get between one of the brake levers and the BCM. Those are low amp wires, so you would have to use a different power source and a relay...BUT, I am not sure that that would not contaminate the CanBUS and either cause it not to work properly, or, at the least throw an error code.

    Perhaps someone else has better information. The above is what we have seen when working on our various LED options for the rear of the newer bikes and trikes.

    Kevin
    Well at least you are confirming what I was running into....I had just figured I was under educated in this area. So much for my add-on. Thanks Kevin

    It's a 2015 Bob / Mutha - Sorry for not posting that. jc

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    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    That is a cool lighting option, but just not what I was trying to achieve...But thanks for the option if I can't figure out how to get where I want to be! jc

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc1300 View Post
    Well at least you are confirming what I was running into....I had just figured I was under educated in this area. So much for my add-on. Thanks Kevin

    It's a 2015 Bob / Mutha - Sorry for not posting that. jc
    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post

    I think trikemutha is on to something there.

    I just went out and checked my TG. The top center strip of lights on the Tour Pak work as Brake only. That means HD somehow separated out the brake from the turn signals.

    jc1300, if you can tap into whatever wire is feeding that center strip of lights that light up when the brakes are applies, I think you have the solution to your install of the LED strip you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DK Custom Products View Post
    I think trikemutha is on to something there.

    I just went out and checked my TG. The top center strip of lights on the Tour Pak work as Brake only. That means HD somehow separated out the brake from the turn signals.

    jc1300, if you can tap into whatever wire is feeding that center strip of lights that light up when the brakes are applies, I think you have the solution to your install of the LED strip you have.

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    I'm all over that idea!! Let ya know what I find - Thanks - jc

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    Nope - The entire rear of the Tour Pack lights up with the brake.....Next?

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    HAve you checked with a meter and is there a connection in or around the tour pac?

    And let me get this right

    You just want to hook up a aux light to the tour pac lights when braking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    HAve you checked with a meter and is there a connection in or around the tour pac?

    And let me get this right

    You just want to hook up a aux light to the tour pac lights when braking?
    I think I have to go back to your's and Kevin's thoughts on the center tour pac.....I don't know what I was thinking earlier, but you guys are right. The center lights on the tour pack only have running and brake function. I can live with that - But believe if I can feed just the brake and ground I can achieve my idea of just a brake light below {behind} the bumper. So now I will take the pac down to see if it's possible to tap off that center portion. The problem is I believe that it's a closed one piece unit. Thanks - jc

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc1300 View Post
    I think I have to go back to your's and Kevin's thoughts on the center tour pac.....I don't know what I was thinking earlier, but you guys are right. The center lights on the tour pack only have running and brake function. I can live with that - But believe if I can feed just the brake and ground I can achieve my idea of just a brake light below {behind} the bumper. So now I will take the pac down to see if it's possible to tap off that center portion. The problem is I believe that it's a closed one piece unit. Thanks - jc
    I think that if you want a safe and reliable feed for your extra lights you need to add a powered trailer lighting module and keep the additional light off any of the CanBus circuits and limit your chances of blowing something in the BCM. I'm running a trailer module from Electrical connections and haven't had any issues with anything on the bike. You can tape off the unneeded wires and just use the ground and brake feed if that is all you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livin2Ride View Post
    I think that if you want a safe and reliable feed for your extra lights you need to add a powered trailer lighting module and keep the additional light off any of the CanBus circuits and limit your chances of blowing something in the BCM. I'm running a trailer module from Electrical connections and haven't had any issues with anything on the bike. You can tape off the unneeded wires and just use the ground and brake feed if that is all you want.
    I was looking at that same thing to hook up a trailer module

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    I'm thinking of getting one of these http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/v...tion-indicator for my ZRX1200 as I do a lot of engine braking.

    It might work for you.


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    After much consideration....and some great suggestions.....I have decided to shit can {at least for now} the idea of the light. Sometimes it's best to walk away.....lol

    jc

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    isn't there a connection in the tour pac under the liner to tap into for your project or now S**t canned project??

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    I added led lighting to the rear of my 2015 tri glide be tying into the tail lights. I did this about 600 miles ago and have had zero problems. I just went out and pulled the tour pak liner back and unplugged the light. Looking into the plug with the plug lock on the right side. The top two are the turn signals the lower left is the running light the lower right is the BRAKE ONLY. So splice into that wire to add a brake only light. Best to solder wiring Click image for larger version. 

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