Military and Minimum Wage

[Sully]

[Catfish]

Amen Brother!

[rhino 2]

I started out in 65 at 93 dollars a month less tax and GI insurance...
Got a raise in Nam 178 a month, Plus free 5.56, and Claymores...
Yea 15 an hour to make a career out of flipping burgers.. Dangerous job, Dealing with a hot grill....
Only in America........

[FuzzyWuzHe]

Ya know what is really sad ... I now get more weekly from unemployment than I did a month till I made E6 in the Navy.



Please don't hate me for being on the Government Tit ... I hate it and it's at my lawyer's request. Looks better for the Bankruptcy Trustee.

[consitter]

Ya know what is really sad ... I now get more weekly from unemployment than I did a month till I made E6 in the Navy.



Please don't hate me for being on the Government Tit ... I hate it and it's at my lawyer's request. Looks better for the Bankruptcy Trustee.

Hey, if you ain't working, you ain't working. Something tells me that you've paid MORE than your fair share into the unemployment barrel in your working life.

In 8 years, when the good ol' U.S. gov't forces me to retire at 57 (I'm law enforcement, and I would much prefer to work on until 62), I have every plan on collecting unemployment for however long they'll let me. I can't collect social security (such as it is) until I'm 62, and can't draw from my 401k until I'm 59-1/2, so I'm hoping they won't close that loophole in the next 8 years.

I've heard that it's getting harder and harder to collect that way, but I'm going to give it a shot. It'll be hard being forced out the door to only collect 38% of my base pay when I do. Not saying that I have a right to collect unemployment, but I've never collected it in my work history. I've always had some sort of job, even if it was something minimum wage.

And YES, I know this is way off track. Sorry.

[1dn5up]

Scott, Fuzzy, your not off base , I worked every week for some 40 yrs. Never filed for unemployment . At 60 it was either get out or go postal! Asked my boss if he could lay me off. What a look I got- so he did - so after one realizes how much they contribute into the unemployment system, I did not feel guilty filing for it. Recieved it for 1.5 yrs thru extentions ect. Then filed for SS at 62. 2 pensions plus my Ira at 65. Don't feel guilty about unemployment $ , drag it out as long as you can. The government is slick. They know that nobody will be able to max out on either.

[Fredward]

The article assumes a forty hour work week. In 8 years of service, I NEVER had a 40 hour work week.

[Bubba49]

The article assumes a forty hour work week. In 8 years of service, I NEVER had a 40 hour work week.

I agree with that. I did 30 years and 24 days in the Navy and I probably saw 4 or 5 weeks of forty hour work weeks. Getting ready for deployment, I averaged seventy to eighty hour work weeks. While on deployment, I probably averaged 112 hour work weeks (6 on watch 6 off watch with 2 hours of non-watch work on either side, seven days a week).

I didn't start making decent money (what I thought I was worth) until I made Master Chief.

[Fredward]

Man, I understand. I did 8 military followed by 25 civil service, CSRS. I retired at 50 and now I'm a semi-suit with a security company. It's really not about the money, I just have to work. Very hard not to-self supporting since age 12, often supporting others as well. How do you go from full time to full stop? I gotta figure it out someday, I'm 59 now. Maybe riding will help encourage me to slow down.

[FuzzyWuzHe]

I don't have a problem with burger flippers making 15 bucks an hr. Hell, that's still poverty wages. The real problem is our governments paying peanut wages to our military personnel. They deserve a hell of a lot more.

Amen ... but some CEO of an Oil company can get a 80 million dollar "golden parachute" for two years as CEO ... even if they spill lots o oil on their watch

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When I started in the Navy ... kind of understood the low pay ... heck I could barely spell nuclear operator ... later on the I was responsible for all the training for a 550 man crew (250 of them nuclear trained) as well as all off ship maintenance (Civilian and Shipyard) ... I really did feel like I was worth a little more than 19K/year. When I retired I went right into a six figure position ... of course the ex got all that ... anyway ... I kind of understand why the government doesn't pay the military what they're worth ... There's not enough money in the world.

But ya know what bugged me the most, wasn't the low pay, it was that after insulting me with the low pay, the government still had it's hand out for income tax on that low pay ... still don't understand that. Of course, they are taking State and Federal out of my unemployment pay too. Now tell me that makes sense.

It's a crazy world we live in ...

[rhino 2]

Amen ...
But ya know what bugged me the most, wasn't the low pay, it was that after insulting me with the low pay, the government still had it's hand out for income tax on that low pay ... still don't understand that. Of course, they are taking State and Federal out of my unemployment pay too. Now tell me that makes sense.

It's a crazy world we live in ...

Hey' i even had to pay for my own life insurance... So in case some Gook took me out' My Parents would collect 10 grand....

[Fredward]

I don't have a problem with burger flippers making 15 bucks an hr. Hell, that's still poverty wages. The real problem is our governments paying peanut wages to our military personnel. They deserve a hell of a lot more.

With the government setting minimums. 15 bucks an hour is about 3 bucks an hour less than a plumber in this state. My highest paid security officers make that. A person ought to get paid what they are worth, not some government mandated minimum. The minimum guarantees slackers and seniority will be the only standard. BTW, automated burger machines already exist, they just don't sell well due to their cost. Guess what? At 15 bucks an hour, the machine just became a bargain. Starter jobs will become a dead issue. Drones will replace delivery people. Yeah, it's gonna be great. The 3 people left working will bring in big bucks.

[Retired Army]

No body factored in food, housing, clothing, medical care and one operating M16 to include fire arms training plus ammo with 30 days paid vacation with full retirement after 20 years all included in military pay. In my case the military is making the payment on my trike.

[hogcowboy]

I'd much rather give that $15/hr to our active military than to give it to people that see flipping burgers as a challenging career. They are only going to cause automation to take their challenging job so they have nothing. Real smart move you intelligent idiots!!! But then you could join the military and see what being shot at daily if not hourly is like. But no, they'll just get on welfare.

[1dn5up]

Scott, Fuzzy, your not off base , I worked every week for some 40 yrs. Never filed for unemployment . At 60 it was either get out or go postal! Asked my boss if he could lay me off. What a look I got- so he did - so after one realizes how much they contribute into the unemployment system, I did not feel guilty filing for it. Recieved it for 1.5 yrs thru extentions ect. Then filed for SS at 62. 2 pensions plus my Ira at 65. Don't feel guilty about unemployment $ , drag it out as long as you can. The government is slick. They know that nobody will be able to max out on either.

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[FuzzyWuzHe]

+2

[Sully]

[Thor]

I don't have a problem with burger flippers making 15 bucks an hr. Hell, that's still poverty wages. The real problem is our governments paying peanut wages to our military personnel. They deserve a hell of a lot more.

THAT is it summed up nicely in a nutshell...

[rhino 2]

It's not that their not worth 15 an hour....Some might be.. But its wrong for for a whole generation to limit their careers to being hamburger flippers.... .....