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Thread: My first attempt at an oil change on the GW Trike

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    Default My first attempt at an oil change on the GW Trike

    I'm use to working on my Ultra Limited and changing oil is a very quick and easy job. I figured the GW would also be quick and easy. I ordered an OEM oil filter, oil filter/plug combo wrench from Wingstuff and thought I was ready to go. My trike is a Motor Trike conversion and the floor board runs up into the front of the engine so there isn't much room to remove the filter or get to the plug. However after driving the trike onto a 2X4 on the left side and armed with my combo wrench I thought this is going to be a piece of cake. Wrong, the previous owner had used a Fram filter and the end of the filter doesn't fit my filter/plug combo wrench. None of my other oil filter wrenches are that small and I can't get a channel lock around it either. I guess AutoZone is my next stop to get a smaller filter wrench to remove the Fram. It looks like once I've replaced the Fram with a Honda filter my next change should be fairly easy. Are we having fun yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paid4c4 View Post
    I'm use to working on my Ultra Limited and changing oil is a very quick and easy job. I figured the GW would also be quick and easy. I ordered an OEM oil filter, oil filter/plug combo wrench from Wingstuff and thought I was ready to go. My trike is a Motor Trike conversion and the floor board runs up into the front of the engine so there isn't much room to remove the filter or get to the plug. However after driving the trike onto a 2X4 on the left side and armed with my combo wrench I thought this is going to be a piece of cake. Wrong, the previous owner had used a Fram filter and the end of the filter doesn't fit my filter/plug combo wrench. None of my other oil filter wrenches are that small and I can't get a channel lock around it either. I guess AutoZone is my next stop to get a smaller filter wrench to remove the Fram. It looks like once I've replaced the Fram with a Honda filter my next change should be fairly easy. Are we having fun yet?
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    Bill it is a little messy but you can drive a screwdriver through that old filter and break it loose then turn it out by hand. You most likely will never use that size filter wrench again so why buy one. JMHO....

    If you do not have access to a lift table and have moderate woodworking skills you can build a set of ramps like mine. They raise all three wheels 4.5 inches so you can get to some things and also get a floor jack under to do serious lifting. Here is a photo. Use 2X6 for front wheel and 2X10 for rear wheels. Strap holds two halves together for getting the trike on and slotted on the front screw so the ramp portion is removable and out of the way while you roll around.

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    I'm like an old race horse..... I can still run the race -- Just ache more at the finish line and need more rest between outings.

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    I've been thinking about the screw driving in the filter trick. I think I will drill a hole in the filter and let it drain all night which will cut down on the mess. Once I do that I'm committed as I won't be able to start the trike until the change is completed. Thanks for the idea.
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    Just get a small strap wrench. It will work with any filter.

    ps. I only tighten my filters hand-tight, then twist a extra quarter turn. Can usually turn the old filter off by hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Rush View Post
    If you do not have access to a lift table and have moderate woodworking skills you can build a set of ramps like mine. They raise all three wheels 4.5 inches so you can get to some things and also get a floor jack under to do serious lifting. Here is a photo. Use 2X6 for front wheel and 2X10 for rear wheels. Strap holds two halves together for getting the trike on and slotted on the front screw so the ramp portion is removable and out of the way while you roll around.
    That's the way I want to think when I grow up (BTW, I just turned 79)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wehrme View Post
    Just get a small strap wrench. It will work with any filter.

    ps. I only tighten my filters hand-tight, then twist a extra quarter turn. Can usually turn the old filter off by hand.
    I have a much younger friend stopping by to see if he can loosen it by hand. Arthritis prevents me from getting a good grasp on it. This getting older thing isn't for the faint of heart. However at 66 I'm still riding on two wheels and the trike when the wife wants to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Rush View Post
    Bill it is a little messy but you can drive a screwdriver through that old filter and break it loose then turn it out by hand. You most likely will never use that size filter wrench again so why buy one. JMHO....

    If you do not have access to a lift table and have moderate woodworking skills you can build a set of ramps like mine. They raise all three wheels 4.5 inches so you can get to some things and also get a floor jack under to do serious lifting. Here is a photo. Use 2X6 for front wheel and 2X10 for rear wheels. Strap holds two halves together for getting the trike on and slotted on the front screw so the ramp portion is removable and out of the way while you roll around.

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    Thanks for the photos I'm going to build something similar. How much trouble is it to drive the trike onto the ramps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paid4c4 View Post
    I have a much younger friend stopping by to see if he can loosen it by hand. Arthritis prevents me from getting a good grasp on it. This getting older thing isn't for the faint of heart. However at 66 I'm still riding on two wheels and the trike when the wife wants to go.
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    Thanks for the photos I'm going to build something similar. How much trouble is it to drive the trike onto the ramps?
    Bill
    No problem getting onto the ramp at all. As I recall the flat area is about 14" and the actual ramps are 24 inches. If you make the ramp longer it will be even easier to go up. Be sure to put the stop board on the front. Keeps me from rolling off forward!
    Jerry "Gold Rush" (aka: "SPOOK") San Angelo, TX
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    If I may make a suggestion and the heck with anyone's possible negative response.
    Because there are no negatives. Size doesn't matter here.
    Dump the OEM or any other filter you may have been using and try these. Its the only filter Ive used on any bike Ive owned in the last 10 years.
    It makes a nightmare just a bad dream.
    These used to be sold at Wally World for $3. I get them from Summit now and yes they are for Hondas.
    Its half the size of the OEM filter and makes changes so easy with having the floor boards in the way.

    http://www.summitracing.com/search?S...rd=CFF-COS6607

    Yes that's my review at the bottom. I feel so strongly about using these filters I had to do it after all these years.
    One of the few best kept secrets I still have.

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    Oil changed with the aid of younger hands and a phillips screw driver. Next change should be a lot easier. Thanks for all the suggestions and comments. I used the OEM Honda filter and Shell Rosella T6 synthetic.
    Bill

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    Oil changed with the aid of younger hands and a phillips screw driver. Next change should be a lot easier. Thanks for all the suggestions and comments. I used the OEM Honda filter and Shell Rosella T6 synthetic.
    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaysGone View Post
    If I may make a suggestion and the heck with anyone's possible negative response.

    Because there are no negatives. Size doesn't matter here.

    Dump the OEM or any other filter you may have been using and try these. Its the only filter Ive used on any bike Ive owned in the last 10 years.

    It makes a nightmare just a bad dream.

    These used to be sold at Wally World for $3. I get them from Summit now and yes they are for Hondas.

    Its half the size of the OEM filter and makes changes so easy with having the floor boards in the way.

    http://www.summitracing.com/search?S...rd=CFF-COS6607

    Yes that's my review at the bottom. I feel so strongly about using these filters I had to do it after all these years.

    One of the few best kept secrets I still have.
    Thank you, for this info,

    and this filter fits your wing w/o leaks or problems ...Correct??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wehrme View Post
    Just get a small strap wrench. It will work with any filter.

    ps. I only tighten my filters hand-tight, then twist a extra quarter turn. Can usually turn the old filter off by hand.
    Have used these for years. Have a large one and a smaller one. They take some doing if space is tight, have to be able to get the strap tight so it won't slip. These are the strap wrenches with a rubber strap.

    The metal strap wrenches work well too.
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    I've never had an issue getting the filter off any GW I've had when using this ... and the little hole does the drain plug ... very handy and is very easy to get in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paid4c4 View Post
    Oil changed with the aid of younger hands and a phillips screw driver. Next change should be a lot easier. Thanks for all the suggestions and comments. I used the OEM Honda filter and Shell Rosella T6 synthetic.

    Bill
    I also have the help of younger hands, a Phillips screw driver and Rotella T6 Synthetic Oil.

    God bless,

    Ride safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    I've never had an issue getting the filter off any GW I've had when using this ... and the little hole does the drain plug ... very handy and is very easy to get in there.

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    I have this wrench and with some after market filters, that are just a hair longer you can't use this tool. Besides, I've changed oil on many bikes and the Wing was always the easiest. Harley the worst. Filter drained out on parts that needed to be wiped every time. With a wing you an change it in a suit. No mess to clean up and nothing else soiled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnerboy View Post
    Thank you, for this info,

    and this filter fits your wing w/o leaks or problems ...Correct??
    Yup

    101%

    It is made for Honda cars.

    Its always been made by Champion

    Since this was a few years back the shorter can number is Champion #COS6607

    Got 1 right here in front of me on my desk from the last time someone asked.

    They also have a full sized can. I guess one could look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    I've never had an issue getting the filter off any GW I've had when using this ... and the little hole does the drain plug ... very handy and is very easy to get in there.

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    I have one of those wrenches and love them BUT I have to admit, I didn't realize that the small hole on the bottom was a 17 MM and fit the drain plug (Daaaaa stupid me ) I used that small hole to hang that filter wrench up on my garage wall....*what's the small hole next to the filter size for??* That may have a reason for being there also??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnerboy View Post
    *what's the small hole next to the filter size for??* That may have a reason for being there also??

    Ronnie
    That's to hang it on the wall .... LOL ....

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    See your never too old to learn something new everyday..... Thank you! of all the years i've been changing oil on two Gwings since 2002, plus other folks wings, I've been using that exact oil filter removal tool and never realized that was a 17ml hole made for removal of the drain plug....Thanks for the eye opening here

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    Once you change the oil and filter the first time, you learn what to do the next. At least that's the way I learned! Ha ha! Reminds me, I need to change the oil and filter on my Trike. Ride safe!

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