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    Default It Can Be Done

    We're back up in Arkansas riding the twisties with some friends this week. I'm on my '06 Wing with a '13 Roadsmith conversion that includes the HD swaybar option. I'm running the Avon Cobra Trike tire on the front.
    Today, riding 2-up with the wife, I got into a real tight curve doing about 15 mph in such a manner that the left rear tire actually left the pavement for a second and came up in the air. It didn't get very high as I let off the throttle, but yes; It Can Be Done!!
    It kinda caught me off-guard, and a little un-nerving, as this trike has cornered like it's on rails ever since the Cobra Trike tire was installed.
    Dunno if anyone else has ever experienced, or done, this. I'm sure some of you probably have. My poor wife liked to had heart failure. I guess if I stayed on the throttle, I could probably have rolled it over? Dunno.
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    correct reaction. Roll over would have been only if you would hit just the front brake with the bars turned all the way into the direction of the turn. Even at that I bet it would be difficult. You have to work at it to make them go over
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    Default Lifted wheel

    On my Motor Trike, I have done wheel lifts on hard, tight corners. The inside wheel is the one that lifts. When it happened to me, the inside tire lost traction and because it is a normal differential, the bike lost power, and set the lifted wheel down. No problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgjhn View Post
    We're back up in Arkansas riding the twisties with some friends this week. I'm on my '06 Wing with a '13 Roadsmith conversion that includes the HD swaybar option. I'm running the Avon Cobra Trike tire on the front.
    Today, riding 2-up with the wife, I got into a real tight curve doing about 15 mph in such a manner that the left rear tire actually left the pavement for a second and came up in the air. It didn't get very high as I let off the throttle, but yes; It Can Be Done!!
    It kinda caught me off-guard, and a little un-nerving, as this trike has cornered like it's on rails ever since the Cobra Trike tire was installed.
    Dunno if anyone else has ever experienced, or done, this. I'm sure some of you probably have. My poor wife liked to had heart failure. I guess if I stayed on the throttle, I could probably have rolled it over? Dunno.
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    I bet your pucker factor went through the roof for a couple seconds!!! YUP, Been there - Done that ......

    There is one corner about two blocks from the house that just has a yield sign on it. It's well over a 90 degree turn and if I forget I'll lift that inside wheel every time. Funny, it gets the same reaction from me every time!!!..
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    That's why it's important NOT to brake in the turn. All braking to be done b4 the turn, even if you go in too hot, lock um up b4.
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    Riding the twisties virtually every day I have barely lifted a rear a few times. Usually, it is on a downhill curve that is banked to the outside. Yep, pucker factor is really high.

    Having a co-rider that likes to go fast and will lean to help keep the rear end down is of great benefit. It's fun when the two wheelers following us say, "Darn - how did you do that? I can't keep up." And I ride fairly conservatively for the most part.

    It is much easier to lift a rear wheel when riding solo so on the few times my co-rider isn't with me I have to reprogram myself to corner differently - mainly because the trike is so much faster I really have to pay attention to acceleration between curves as it is real easy to arrive way too hot. GEE - WHAT FUN!!!
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    I have been riding several years on trikes and the rear tire can come up but to turn one over, that takes a lot of thing going wrong mostly by the rider. I've smoked tires from braking going into switchbacks and that was because I went into it way to fast. Using brakes to hard in curves will always get you into trouble. And by the way when this happens to me and the wife is on the back she lets me hear about it.

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    If I'm not mistaken the Tri-Glide' And properly some others have a tip-over switch that will cut the ignition back a little till the trike is level again....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    If I'm not mistaken the Tri-Glide' And properly some others have a tip-over switch that will cut the ignition back a little till the trike is level again....

    That switch is a complete shutdown of the power. You have to do a reset of the ignition to reset the switch. You can make that switch think you are going over if the side forces of a turn are strong enough. I have once but I really was over the speed for the corner. The trike was not actually tipping just sliding real hard on the side force. The switched worked and shut the trike down. At first i thought I broke something then I remembered the switch, turned the power switch on and of a couple of times and all was well.
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    Thanks guys. Comments greatly appreciated.
    Today, we did about 150 miles with lots of switchbacks and twisties.
    Once again, the trike was like it was on rails without any issues at all, but I was certainly on the look out for any issues today...I even subtly tried a couple of times to duplicate yesterday's lift, but was unsuccessful.
    FYI: All my braking is done prior to the curve, and I'm geared down to the gear I want to be in when coming off the curve's apex. Both of us leaning and foot weight on the inside peg. At the apex, the throttle is rolled on and the trike just pulls on thru it as sweet as honey. Did this over and over again all day and several times leaving the 2-wheeled bikes waaaay behind to the point where I had to stop to let em catch up. I tried to warn em this thing would go around a corner....LOL. 7 degrees of rake is an added plus for sure.
    I did have one pucker factor today: a steep downhill decreasing radius tight curve to the left. I got into it a tad too hot not realizing how tight the decreasing radius was till I was in it; I smoked that Cobra trike tire pretty good as it got tighter and tighter. Finally, it straightened out, but the pucker factor was definitely there for this little old fat fella, and the wife beating me on the helmet the whole time to "slow down".
    BTW, I cannot say enough good things about that Avon trike tire. I don't know how many miles I'll get out of it, especially after riding like this, but regardless of how it holds up, I'll definitely be putting on another one. I think I have about 2000 miles on it now, and it is only showing very little wear....time will tell.

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    Take a GWRRA Trike course and they will offer to let you lift the rear wheel in a controlled setting so you will know what it feels like.

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    Our Spyder has a "nanny" that will kick in until the rider comes to their senses. We've never purposely had it kick in but have had it happen in gusty crosswinds when the wheel came of the ground. It just throttles back and you can try again afterwards. I've read that if you do it too often in a certain amount of time it will put you in limp mode or something like that. I think that only happens when you are truly playing and forcing the issue though. Not sure and I'm passed the age of wanting to find out and so is the wife who rides ours.
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