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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryA View Post
    I have bought the 80 cu,ft. bottle the gas suppliers for some reason call this a "Q" bottle. came filled with 100 percent argon from weld fabulous on ebay but I have to exchange it with Praxair around here in ND this is the largest bottle I can buy....otherwize you have to lease from the gas company ....hopefully you are close to a gas supplier and will have more choices. when your welding a lot, what ever size bottle you have will seem to small LOL
    generally u r way further ahead to lease a large bottle (t size ) than buy the small one... as the cost per cu ft is so much less

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    I was planning to get a bottle from the same place I get my others from.

    But was wondering how big of a bottle I should get.

    Never Tig welded before
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    I guess it depends on future projects....if one time deal with headers and not much else...I'd think about buying a Q.

    Looking at demurrage every month for a big bottle sitting around gets old....I have paid for ox/acy demurrage for 50 yrs...retired now ....small projects only ..Q ox/with propane Q argon that's it for me.. If you get into a lot of tig I would go big and lease. ....the Q bottles get empty fast. probably a long way of saying, there is no right answer....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryA View Post
    I guess it depends on future projects....if one time deal with headers and not much else...I'd think about buying a Q.

    Looking at demurrage every month for a big bottle sitting around gets old....I have paid for ox/acy demurrage for 50 yrs...retired now ....small projects only ..Q ox/with propane Q argon that's it for me.. If you get into a lot of tig I would go big and lease. ....the Q bottles get empty fast. probably a long way of saying, there is no right answer....
    My ox/acy sit around a lot not used. But I plan to do a lot experimenting with the Tig so I will get the big bottle. At lease for now.

    I have seen some tig welding art on line. I want to be able to do that one day

    my flow meter should be in today. If it comes early enough I will go get a bottle of Argon. I assume the meter has a standard thread but I want to have it before I get a bottle

    My welder is delayed though
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    my welder came in today. I was not expecting it for a few weeks.

    I'm modifying the cart my mig is on to have a 2nd level for the Tig

    I picked up a 150cf bottle. The next size bigger they had was a 300cf. The bottle was just to big for my cart.
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    Now have at it! the only thing that seemed strange to me about tig was that I had to make a conscious effort to move ahead, with respect to stick and gas welding.....Maybe the more vertical torch angle with tig.....anyhow, when puddle width is your desired bead width ... time to move forward.....maybe this will not be a problem for you.....good luck!

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    i still need to get some filler wire and figure out what tungsten rod to use.

    Also the flow meter I purchased does not fit my new tank

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    I did build a 2nd level onto my welding cart for the Tig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fowler View Post
    i still need to get some filler wire and figure out what tungsten rod to use.

    Also the flow meter I purchased does not fit my new tank

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    that looks like a standard argon regulator... which is what you want for tig,,

    we use TIG Welding Tungsten Electrodes 2% Thoriated (Red, WT20) 10-Pack (3/32") https://www.amazon.com/Welding-Tungs.../dp/B013KZNLGG

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacebg View Post
    that looks like a standard argon regulator... which is what you want for tig,,

    we use TIG Welding Tungsten Electrodes 2% Thoriated (Red, WT20) 10-Pack (3/32") https://www.amazon.com/Welding-Tungs.../dp/B013KZNLGG
    Yeswelder is sending me a new regulator.

    I just found this on the link you posted

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    I ordered some red and some blue
    Thank you
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    so now I need to get some filler wire

    for the first welds I was thinking about using these 1/4 metal plates I have. They are big enough, heavy and I have 3 of them. 1 for my son practice on, one for me and 1 for a friend

    They go on the bottom of a server/switch racks

    As I said I have never Tig welded before so I was thinking something thick would be easier at first

    What filler wire should I use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fowler View Post
    so now I need to get some filler wire

    for the first welds I was thinking about using these 1/4 metal plates I have. They are big enough, heavy and I have 3 of them. 1 for my son practice on, one for me and 1 for a friend

    They go on the bottom of a server/switch racks

    As I said I have never Tig welded before so I was thinking something thick would be easier at first

    What filler wire should I use?
    062 wire is good (for us) down to about 16 gauge (060)

    below that we have 035

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    ordered wire this morning

    the only place to get it local is the welding supply store about 45 minutes away and they are not open on weekends
    Thank you
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    I found a place closer that may have filler wire. But they are not open on Sunday.

    Today if I get a metal art project I am working on done in time and the Ol'Lady does not have anything on her list for me to do, I plan to fire up the tig and just do some practice starts without the filler.

    I had to do a brake job yesterday on my HHR and then start the art project piece I am dong for a friend, then Beer and Boxing so had no time for the trike or welder.

    On the square exhaust I had to go through a number of test pieces before I finally got the shape/size i needed for the bolts will have room and still not restrict the exhaust

    Next is to modify the actual exhaust pipes I made

    I was thinking though.

    Before I tack them to the exhaust flange I need to recheck the pinion angle. It should be good but its been a while since i checked that. If I have to adjust the engine/transmission angle any that will throw off my header angle
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    OK before you say it know they look like crap.

    But I will learn and they will get better

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    some look not too bad...the end divot, needs to go...the tig videos should tell how to deal with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fowler View Post
    OK before you say it know they look like crap.

    But I will learn and they will get better

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    dont waste too much time laying beads on flat sheet. u wont ever do that less u r doing decorative...weld 2 pc together side by side, an over lap or a t joint or a corner welded outside

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    I don't have any filler wire yet. So I'm just doing it without filler.

    I have a lot of practice to do.

    I was running on 120V at 80 amps for then thin metal and 100 for the thick

    I was using Blue Tungsten

    I got caught with a the Ol'Ladys end table and she noticed I melted the epoxy cover on it.
    Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fowler View Post
    I don't have any filler wire yet. So I'm just doing it without filler.

    I have a lot of practice to do.

    I was running on 120V at 80 amps for then thin metal and 100 for the thick

    I was using Blue Tungsten

    I got caught with a the Ol'Ladys end table and she noticed I melted the epoxy cover on it.
    didnt realize u had no wire didnt look that close ...

    one thing u might find useful on thin stuff is a cabinet corner where 2 pc r welded edge to edge an a 90 degree corner if that makes sense may get some porosity with out wire

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    Stacebg is right....so many videos are of just making beautiful flat welds.....get used to moving the torch for tacks positioning angles for lapwelds..and favoring the heat on heavy sections when welding thick to thin.

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