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Thread: 2017 eitms ?

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    Cool 2017 eitms ?

    Have 500 miles on my 2017 Tri and it seems to me that the EITMS comes on a lot sooner than any other bike I have owned with FBW. Anyone else see this on there 2017 ? Thanks Doc

    Yes I know it is still breaking in but seems to come on to fast to me.
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    Default EITMS Parameters

    Per HD, these are the following parameter for the 2017 Tri Glide Ultra EITMS:

    -Davidson Owner's Manual for Trike Models. In this very small manual I find the following:

    "Operation

    When engine temperature reaches a predetermined point, the EITMS turns off the rear cylinder fuel injector. The rear cylinder becomes an air pump which works to cool the engine.

    EITMS activate (rear cylinder turns off) when all of the following conditions are met:

    Ambient temperature or engine temperature exceeds temperature threshold.

    Throttle control is at idle.

    Vehicle speed under 1 mph (2km/h).

    Engine Speed under 1200 rpm.

    Note

    EITMS does not activate within the first four minutes after starting the vehicle.

    EITMS disables (rear cylinder begins firing again) if any one of the following occurs:

    Ambient temperature or engine temperature falls below temperature threshold.

    Throttle control is above idle.

    Vehicle speed exceeds 2 mph (3km/h).

    Engine speed exceed 1350 rpm.

    Clutch is released with vehicle in gear.

    Engaging reverse.

    When the engine is in EITMS operation, you may notice a difference in idle cadence. Additionally, there may be a unique exhaust odor. Both are normal conditions". Information copied from Page 111 of Operation from the Trike Models, 2017 Harley-Davidson Owner's Manual Copyright 2016

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    That explains it Thanks Doc Its normal for the 2017 Tri.
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    My 17 comes on a lot sooner than my 16 did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykneesbehurtin View Post
    My 17 comes on a lot sooner than my 16 did.
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    I don't know... the EITMS on both my '14 and '17 TriGlides were set to disable by the dealer when I bought them, and I never tuned them on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB1953 View Post
    I don't know... the EITMS on both my '14 and '17 TriGlides were set to disable by the dealer when I bought them, and I never tuned them on.
    It is so simple to disable. On the pre-2014's, the dealer had to do it. After that, all you do is roll the throttle forward at idle and the cruise control light illuminates yellow and the EITMS is disabled. After thinking about Kevin's comments and not liking the shake, rattle and roll, I turned mine off yesterday before a ride to the beach. It is getting warm here and the ambient temps would make it kick on if I had not disabled it. I have the Love Jug fans so I am no longer overly concerned about engine temps at idle or below 35 mph. At higher speeds, I know that things are still tending to a cook a bit in the engine department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB1953 View Post
    I don't know... the EITMS on both my '14 and '17 TriGlides were set to disable by the dealer when I bought them, and I never tuned them on.
    Mine was also off at time of delivery, I turned it on and leave it on cannot hurt to help keep the rear cylinder cool. Doc
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    Quote Originally Posted by hddocfl View Post
    Mine was also off at time of delivery, I turned it on and leave it on cannot hurt to help keep the rear cylinder cool. Doc
    Turn mine off in cooler weather then back on in summer.

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    We have a 17 now and I noticed the fans come on a lot sooner than any TG I've had in the past...anyone else?
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    [QUOTE=Casper;452809]We have a 17 now and I noticed the fans come on a lot sooner than any TG I've had in the past...anyone else?[/QUOTE

    I only have 600 miles on mine 2017 takes about 10 mins with 80s ambient Temps, First bike I have owned with a wet head, If that helps you. Doc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    We have a 17 now and I noticed the fans come on a lot sooner than any TG I've had in the past...anyone else?
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    My riding buddy and I have only been on Trikes for about 10 months. Soon after we both bought new 16's he traded for his current 17 model. We ride together several times a week.

    We are both keeping ours activated right now due to higher temps this spring. Neither one of us has had a wet-head before. I'm not sure if his comes on sooner than mine or not. What we have noticed is that on some rides when we stop and park his fans keep running longer than mine, or there has been times when my fans are not running and his are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISP-FL View Post
    My riding buddy and I have only been on Trikes for about 10 months. Soon after we both bought new 16's he traded for his current 17 model. We ride together several times a week.

    We are both keeping ours activated right now due to higher temps this spring. Neither one of us has had a wet-head before. I'm not sure if his comes on sooner than mine or not. What we have noticed is that on some rides when we stop and park his fans keep running longer than mine, or there has been times when my fans are not running and his are.
    My fans are on at every shut down and run for about a min. later. Cold they come on within 5 mins its warm here Bradenton. Doc
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    Quote Originally Posted by hddocfl View Post
    My fans are on at every shut down and run for about a min. later. Cold they come on within 5 mins its warm here Bradenton. Doc
    Mine aren't on at every shut down, or at least I am not hearing them at every shut down. However, most days I will leave the house 3 or 4 different times on the bike and each trip is between 2 miles and 5 miles, just running errands and such. If I make a longer run, say 12 miles or more, or get up on the interstate when the temps are in the 80's or higher, then when I shut down they will run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISP-FL View Post
    Mine aren't on at every shut down, or at least I am not hearing them at every shut down. However, most days I will leave the house 3 or 4 different times on the bike and each trip is between 2 miles and 5 miles, just running errands and such. If I make a longer run, say 12 miles or more, or get up on the interstate when the temps are in the 80's or higher, then when I shut down they will run.
    My 2017 does the same after 5- 10 mins or more run time, Its warm and the bike is new I kind of expected it to rum hot. Doc
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