Back ordered part.

[Mykneesbehurtin]

About two weeks ago I took my 17 Tri in for a issue with the idle,they had to order a clutch safety switch.So after a call to the shop yesterday they told me the part is on back order with no idea of when it will come in.

Okay not all that big of an issue except i am leaving for Daytona in less then 3 weeks and i don't want to break down in the middle of Bum* Egypt.So I asked the service writer to ask the general manager about taking a switch off one sitting on the floor then just replace it with the new part.So I will soon see what kind a customer service this shop is willing to offer.

 

[1dn5up]

Idle problem ? Clutch safety switch ? Don't understand the connection :Shrug:

 

[rhino 2]

Idle problem ? Clutch safety switch ? Don't understand the connection :Shrug:

I can only answer for my 17....Because of EPA regs, The M8 has to idle at around 850rpm's And sometimes at an abrupt stop it will drop below that, And if you come off the clutch, At that moment you can stall the engine... The safety switch will give me trouble only if i don't have the leaver hard against the grip...I have an adjustable leaver and i use the #2 out of 8 settings, If i use the #1 setting[closest to the grip] it wont let the lever press against the grip, So it won't start in gear at that setting......

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

Idle problem ? Clutch safety switch ? Don't understand the connection :Shrug:

According to the mother ship the switch is sending a faulty signal to the ECM,dont ask me I have been lost since they did away with electronic ign. and carbs lol.

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

I can only answer for my 17....Because of EPA regs, The M8 has to idle at around 850rpm's And sometimes at an abrupt stop it will drop below that, And if you come off the clutch, At that moment you can stall the engine... The safety switch will give me trouble only if i don't have the leaver hard against the grip...I have an adjustable leaver and i use the #2 out of 8 settings, If i use the #1 setting[closest to the grip] it wont let the lever press against the grip, So it won't start in gear at that setting......

Mine will drop down to around 500 then back up to 1100 a couple times and sometimes it will stall so i will try to make sure that I have the clutch lever pulled in hard and see how it acts.

 

[rhino 2]

Mine will drop down to around 500 then back up to 1100 a couple times and sometimes it will stall so i will try to make sure that I have the clutch lever pulled in hard and see how it acts.

Mine never dropped that low,... When the engine is cold' Like first starting in the morning it will idle at 1100, Till the engine warms up then its back to 850...And in my humble opinion thats to low,....I staled it out a few times when i first got it, Haven't staled a bike in over 50 years till then, Since i got an adjustable clutch lever i haven't had a problem.

But the low idle at times is unnerving and feels like for want of better word's , Like its gonna faint...

 

[1dn5up]

I know with larger grips ya got to yank the clutch into the grips if ya start in gear. Got ta check the idle rpm thing out. The education just never seems to cease :clapping:

 

[rhino 2]

I know with larger grips ya got to yank the clutch into the grips if ya start in gear. Got ta check the idle rpm thing out. The education just never seems to cease :clapping:

To Quote My old man 'Rest his soul.....When You stop learning, You start dyeing.....:cxtv:

 

[MB1953]

Mine never dropped that low,... When the engine is cold' Like first starting in the morning it will idle at 1100, Till the engine warms up then its back to 850...And in my humble opinion thats to low,....I staled it out a few times when i first got it, Haven't staled a bike in over 50 years till then, Since i got an adjustable clutch lever i haven't had a problem.

But the low idle at times is unnerving and feels like for want of better word's , Like its gonna faint...

This is exactly where mine runs... 1100 when cold, then as low as 850, but not until I am at a stop for about 5 seconds or so.

 

[vito]

:Joker3:Jeeze, and to think that my 1966 BSA Spitfire didn't eve have idle circuits in its "GP Pattern" carbonmakers.

 

[ultrafxr]

I too find the low idle on the M8s annoying to put it mildly. What I have learned from my dealer's service manager and verified in actual use is that if you enable ETIMS when it goes active it actually increases the idle speed. On my bike to just a tad under a grand. Now I know some folks don't like the sound / feel of the motor when it is active and the rear cylinder is firing. It doesn't really bother me and I like the increased idle speed.

 

[PosseRider]

About two weeks ago I took my 17 Tri in for a issue with the idle,they had to order a clutch safety switch.So after a call to the shop yesterday they told me the part is on back order with no idea of when it will come in.

Okay not all that big of an issue except i am leaving for Daytona in less then 3 weeks and i don't want to break down in the middle of Bum* Egypt.So I asked the service writer to ask the general manager about taking a switch off one sitting on the floor then just replace it with the new part.So I will soon see what kind a customer service this shop is willing to offer.

Which Dealer in this area ?

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

Which Dealer in this area ?

Piqua.

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

Okay,good news they called today and said they found a switch and i will take it in this Monday,hats off to Piqua Harley.

 

[The Q]

Revised idle speed

Harley has changed the idle speed of the '17 M8. There is an updated flash for the ECM to fix the very problem you are experiencing. I'll see if I can locate the info. It had been posted on another forum. I'm running the SE Street Tuner and Harley has updated the Stage 1 tune twice now. The first update raised the idle from 850 to 950.

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

Harley has changed the idle speed of the '17 M8. There is an updated flash for the ECM to fix the very problem you are experiencing. I'll see if I can locate the info. It had been posted on another forum. I'm running the SE Street Tuner and Harley has updated the Stage 1 tune twice now. The first update raised the idle from 850 to 950.

I have already had the newest upload on the ECM installed in Aug,it was ok for a while then back at it,so they claim its the clutch safety switch.

 

[hddocfl]

I can only answer for my 17....Because of EPA regs, The M8 has to idle at around 850rpm's And sometimes at an abrupt stop it will drop below that, And if you come off the clutch, At that moment you can stall the engine... The safety switch will give me trouble only if i don't have the leaver hard against the grip...I have an adjustable leaver and i use the #2 out of 8 settings, If i use the #1 setting[closest to the grip] it wont let the lever press against the grip, So it won't start in gear at that setting......

I have had the same problem .

 

[hddocfl]

Mine will drop down to around 500 then back up to 1100 a couple times and sometimes it will stall so i will try to make sure that I have the clutch lever pulled in hard and see how it acts.

Same problem with mu 2017. Have to keep the clutch lever hard against the grip.

 

[rhino 2]

Same problem with mu 2017. Have to keep the clutch lever hard against the grip.

The low idle has nothing at all to with keeping the cluch lever against the grip, Thats just to start in gear, The switch is a red herring, Likewise the ETIMS, The only time you can change the idle [raise] is when you put the trike in reverse ...

 

[Texan]

The more I read about the new bikes, the M8's the happier I am with my 'ole '13. Reading all these gyrations you are having with low idle issues, having to stand on you head using 3 hands to start 'em......so on and so on!!! Have 22,00 on my tricycle and plan to put many more before I'd even think about buying a new one. Smooth motor or not !! But being 73 I'll probably won't out live the '13.

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