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    Default Bike coughs sometimes

    So I can be riding along, always at highway speeds and every once in a while the bike coughs. Just once maybe again later 20 minutes are so.

    Not always. and that is it.

    any idea what it is, I use 91 grade gas,usually from the same place. Its's a 2004 Road King trike.

    thanks

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    That’s a tuff one to figure out, off the top of my head , with out a backfire happening I would guess a fuel problem Stop at a stealer and maybe a stored code might come up even though the ck eng light is off. Just a guess.
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    Sounds like a lean hiccup

    What modifications do you have?
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    I had a 2003 FLHRI that did the same thing since new.

    It ended up being the ECM.

    I put a tuner on it and there was no change.

    I even put a tuner with O2 sensors and didn't make a difference.

    Put a new ECM on it and never looked back.
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    thanks all

    I have no engine mods that I can think up.

    I don't know if it's too old to give out code info.--2004

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahuarita John View Post
    thanks all

    I have no engine mods that I can think up.

    I don't know if it's too old to give out code info.--2004
    If you just turn on the ign and a ck eng icon appears , than you got a plug in.
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    I had that in a vehicle a few times over the years......Just a shot in the dark here, Start the trike in a dark garage, In neutral cover the headlights to block the light, Once your eyes are adjusted to the dark, Rev the engine while staring at the spark plug wires and see if they are leaking [Arcing] Maybe even move them around a little...
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    Yes you can check for codes on a 04

    Is this fuel injected or carb?

    If it is carb, they have been lean TOO LEAN from the factory and will hiccup every now and then

    This can be fixed pretty easy and cheap
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    John, have a look here

    The following procedure will instruct in retrieving and clearing ECM Diagnostic Trouble Codes and TSM/TSSM codes through the Harley gauge cluster as well as a list of codes.

    1- Turn Ignition switch to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run.

    2- Push odometer reset button in & hold. For 2014 & newer touring models this will be the toggle switch on the left control mount.

    3- Turn ignition switch to Ignition and release the odometer reset button. Background lighting should illuminate, speedometer needle should sweep its full range and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word "diag" should then appear.

    4 - Push the odometer reset button once and you will see the selection menu "PSSPt" with the first P flashing.

    5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module) to the next, you push the odometer reset button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.)

    P = ECM/ICM(Electronic Control Module)[EFI] /Ignition Control Module[Carbureted])

    S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Security Module)

    SP = speedometer

    T = tachometer

    6 - To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the odometer reset button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC's the code will be displayed or the word "none" will appear if there are no DTC's. Push the odometer reset button again to view additional codes if they exist.

    7 - Record the codes.

    8 - If DTC's are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed.

    NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the odometer reset button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up. Release the odometer reset button. Turn OFF the ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC's again by repeating steps 1 to 9. If the code is current it will reappear.

    9 - Press and release the odometer reset button to continue to the next module.

    10 - Turn Ignition switch to OFF.

    On models not equipped with a tachometer "No Rsp" will appear when the tachometer identifier is selected.

    "No Rsp" (no response) will also appear if the run/off switch is in the off position when doing this procedure.

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    HFSM = Hands Free Security Module

    TSM = Turn signalmodule

    DTC’s are designated by a P,C,B or U

    P codes indicate issues monitored by ECM

    C codes indicate an issue with ABS

    B codes are set by Radio, Instruments and BCM

    U codes indicate a communication problems with the modules

    Fault Code Abbreviation List

    ABS – Anti-Lock Braking System

    ACR – Automatic Compression Release

    AFR – Air Fuel Ratio

    AIS – Active Intake Solenoid

    ATS – Air Temperature Sensor

    BAS – Bank Angle Sensor

    BCM – Body Control Module

    CAN – Controller Area Network

    CCM – Cruise Control Module

    CKP – Crank Position Sensor

    DLC – Datalink Connector

    DTC – Diagnostic Trouble Codes

    ECM – Electronic Control Module

    ECT – Engine Coolant Temperature

    ECU – Electronic Control Unit

    EFI – Electronic Fuel Injection

    EFP – Electronic Fuel Pump

    ET – Engine Temperature sensor

    FI – Fuel Injectors

    FPR – Fuel Pressure regulator

    H-DSSS – Harley-Davidson Smart Security System

    HCU – Hydraulic Control Unit, ABS

    HFSM – Hands Free Security Module

    HO2S – Heated Oxygen Sensor

    IAC – Idle Air Control actuator

    IAT – Intake Air Temperature sensor

    ICM – Ignition Control Module

    IMAP – MAP + IAT in one unit

    ISS – Ion Sensing System

    JSS – Jiffy Stand Sensor

    LHCM – Left Hand Control Module

    MAP – Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor

    MHR – Right Hand Control Module

    RCM – Reverse Control Module

    TCA – Throttle Control Actuator

    TGS – Twist Grip Sensor

    TMAP – Intake Air Temperature / Manifold Absolute Pressure equipment

    TPS – Throttle Position Sensor

    TSM / TSSM – (Turn Signal / Turn Signal Security Module)

    VE – Volume Efficiency

    VIN – Vehicle identification number

    VSS – Vehicle Speed Sensor

    WSS – Wheel Speed Sensor





    P0031 Front HO2S low/open

    P0032 Front HO2S shorted/high

    P0051 Rear HO2S low/open

    P0052 Rear HO2S shorted/high

    P0072 AAT sensor low

    P0073 AAT sensor high/open

    P0107 MAP sensor failed low/open

    P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low

    P0108 MAP sensor failed high/open port

    P0112 IAT Voltage Low

    P0113 IAT Voltage Open/High

    P0117 ET Sensor Low

    P0118 ET Sensor High

    P0120 TPS1 Range Error

    P0122 TPS1 Low

    P0123 TPS2 High/Open

    P0131 Front Oxygen Sensor Low / Engine Lean

    P0132 Front Oxygen Sensor High / Engine Rich

    P0134 Front Oxygen Sensor Inactive

    P0151 Rear Oxygen Sensor Low / Engine Lean

    P0152 Rear Oxygen Sensor High / Engine Rich

    P0154 Rear Oxygen Sensor Inactive

    P0220 TPS2 Range Error

    P0222 TPS2 Low/Open

    P0223 TPS2 High/Open

    P0261 Front Injector Open/Low

    P0262 Front Injector High

    P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low

    P0264 Rear Injector High

    P0265 Rear injector shorted high

    P0371 CKP sensor wrong number of pulses

    P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent

    P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error

    P0444 Purge Solenoid Open/Low

    P0445 Purge Solenoid High

    P0501 VSS Sensor Low

    P0502 VSS Sensor High/Open

    P0503 VSS failed high

    P0505 Idle speed control unstable

    P0562 Battery/ECM Voltage Low

    P0563 Battery/ECM Voltage High

    P0572 Brake Switch Low

    P0577 Cruise Control Input High

    P0603 ECM EEPROM Memory Error

    P0605 ECM FLASH Memory Error

    P0641 5 Volt Reference 1 Out of Range

    P0651 5 Volt Reference 2 Out of Range

    P0691 Fan/cooling relay output low/open

    P0692 Fan/cooling relay output high

    P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low

    P1002 System Relay Coil High/Shorted

    P1003 System relay contacts open

    P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed

    P1009 VTD Disabled Fuel Due to Incorrect Password

    P1010 Missing Password

    P1017 ET indicates overheating

    P1019 ECT Difference (high temp)

    P1270 TGS 2 A/D Validation Error

    P1351 Front Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low

    P1352 Front Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted

    P1353 Front Cylnder No Combustion

    P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low

    P1355 Rear Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted

    P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion

    P1357 Front Cylinder Combustion Intermittent

    P1358 Rear Cylinder Combustion Intermittent

    P1475 Exhaust Actuation Position Error

    P1477 Exhaust Actuator Open/Low

    P1478 Exhaust Actuator Shorted/High

    P1501 Jiffy Stand Sensor Low

    P1502 Jiffy Stand Sensor High

    P1510 EFI Limited Performance Mode

    P1511 EFI Power Management Mode

    P1512 EFI Forced Idle Mode

    P1514 ETC Air Flow Fault/Error

    P1600 EFI Module Processor Internal Error / Watchdog Error

    P1608 Loss of continuous battery

    P1655 ACR solenoid low/open

    P1656 ACR solenoid shorted high

    P1691 Cooling fan left low/open

    P1692 Cooling fan left shorted high

    P1693 Cooling fan right low/open

    P1694 Cooling fan right shorted high

    P2100 EFI Motor Circuit Open

    P2101 EFI Motor Circuit Range Performance (Actuation Error)

    P2102 EFI Motor Circuit Low

    P2103 EFI Motor Circuit High

    P2105 EFI Forced engine shutdown

    P2107 EFI Module Processor Internal Fault

    P2119 EFI Motor Throttle Body RangePerformance

    P2122 TGS1 Low/Open

    P2123 TGS1 High

    P2127 TGS2 Low/Open

    P2128 TGS2 High

    P2135 TPS Correlation Error

    P2138 TGS Correlation Error (Twist grip sensor)

    P2176 EFI Closed Position Not Learned

    P2184 ECT sensor low

    P2185 ECT sensor high

    P2300 Ignition coil driver low/open (front)

    P2301 Ignition coil driver shorted high (front)

    P2303 Ignition coil driver low/open (rear)

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    I believe the 2004 still had the old style cam chain tensioners? If so Possibly worn, allowing the timing to jump off occasionally? Also compensator possibly worn? Mine back fired from a worn compensator but only when starting. Just some shots in the dark from afar
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    If you plan on keeping this bike, the best thing you can do is get one of the latest and greatest tuners. There are some that will allow you to read codes much easier than the Harley procedure. But I had a 2007 model and had to wait 4 weeks for a new ECM if it turns out to be that. I'm assuming you no longer are under any kind of warranty. I fortunately still had mine under an extended warranty. And personally I would never own a Harley without a warranty unless it is a carb'ed bike. These computer controlled things just scare the heck out of me when it comes to potential electrical problems which this very well may be. Before going too far though I'd change plus and plug wires if you have never done it. They could be the original and you might have wires breaking down and mis-firing.
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    Just for grins, check for an intake leak

    Spray some WD40 around the intake flanges see if the engine speed changes

    Over time the seals stop sealing, u pick up some air and you get a lean hiccup
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