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I live in deer county , And I've seen a lot fo deer hit by inattentive drivers....Not saying thats the case with the deer hits on this Tread....But i see it all the time...And i'm thinking that those are the same type of drivers that turn left in front of bikes...
Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
2019 Tri-Glide.......
I had an accident on the Pig Trail in Arkansas back in 2003 on my Ultra. I only got a sore shoulder. Bike cost $13K to fix - they didn't total it. What I did was have everything damaged upgraded so all I paid was the difference between the stock part and the upgrade. That bike had every option available - chrome everywhere.Originally Posted by arcticatv
Will never do that again = got nothing for all that at trade in.
Keeping fingers crossed - never had a close call with a deer - a few times with a jack ass behind the wheel though.
Thought about getting one of those deer whistles, but every report (incl. Consumer Reports) that I've read, say they don't work.
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Yeah, but I don't think they attract the deer. I've run them on every bike I've had for the last 15+ years.I had an accident on the Pig Trail in Arkansas back in 2003 on my Ultra. I only got a sore shoulder. Bike cost $13K to fix - they didn't total it. What I did was have everything damaged upgraded so all I paid was the difference between the stock part and the upgrade. That bike had every option available - chrome everywhere.
Will never do that again = got nothing for all that at trade in.
Keeping fingers crossed - never had a close call with a deer - a few times with a jack ass behind the wheel though.
Thought about getting one of those deer whistles, but every report (incl. Consumer Reports) that I've read, say they don't work.
Kevin
And I've never had one in 50+ years - never had even a near miss.
Of course, I don't live where deer live, but I do a lot of traveling in their neck of the woods(pardon the pun).
I suppose if it gives a sense of security and piece of mind, what's the harm?
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Kevin, I was thinking that maybe deer whistles fall into the same category as biker bells
I have had bikes with and without them (bells given to me) and haven't had an accident or serious incident so I can't figure out if they have any efficacy
Had the deer whistles on the 2015 when I had the first incident, guess they don’t work too well. Never put them on the 2017.
I’m going to take advantage of upgrading a few items when they repair the front end, will only have to pay the difference in the parts.
Looks like it will take about 3 months to repair. Wife bought her a Can Am Spyder to ride, guess we’ll be riding that while waiting on getting the TriGlide repaired.
Deer Whistles and Gremlin Bells
Turns out that the University of Georgia did some scientific study of deer whistles that actually emitted a sound which apparently is not true of many that are sold. The results suggested that deer, even if they could hear the whistle do not change their behavior.
Now, we need to get the University to study gremlins and see if gremlin bells actually capture gremlins
These studies are a waste of time
There are so many variables in the world people place to much trust in these studies. The real study is out on the highway I'm sure there are exceptions but I think the whistles make a huge difference. I live where you can come on to a deer anytime day or night I have to look out the window to see what may be standing in the yard from Bear to coons. and everything in between. We had two close calls before I put whistles on Old Shiney none since. That doesn't mean it couldn't happen however I think they increase your odds and I'm liking the odds better now than without them.
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Talk about coincidences!!!
The following happened just last night, two days after my earlier post.
It's the closest call I've had with a deer.
On the way home, around 7:30, I had a near encounter with a deer. (large doe)
Saw it running on the side of the road...slowed down...she stopped and was looking at me...I was looking at her...
I decided to speed up to get past...
At the same time, she decided to go ahead and cross the road.
IT WAS CLOSE! Thought for sure I was going to hit her.
Missed by about a foot!
btw, this does not put me off deer whistles. Don't know how much they help, but I do not think they hurt. And who knows??? She might not have stopped running if I had not had the deer whistles. Impossible to know.
I do know this- same type folks that have done studies on deer whistle efficacy have also done studies on loud pipes, concluding that loud pipes in no way help cagers be more aware.
There is NO DOUBT in my mind, that loud pipes, in some instances, absolutely help other drivers to be more aware of me.
Of course, just because the loud pipe studies are BS, does not mean the deer whistle studies are.
Kevin
I know my loud pipes have saved the lives of my wife's boyfriends many times...
Coming from MN originally I can say many bikes as well as cars have deer whistles
Do they work? I dunno but there are tons of deer in MN, a lot end up as road kill
I have watched deer, they will do what they want when they get spooked they run blindly not caring what is in front or to the side they wanna get away JMO
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First I ever saw those whistles was back in the mid 80's. Friend of mine worked for county. I saw them and asked what they were. They're whistles all the county cars have them. Do they work? Don't know just got them put on. Two weeks later I see him and ask, where is your car? Hit a deer its in the body shop. So said to him I thought those things chased them away? His answer? Just my luck to hit a god damn deaf deer!
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Having been a former scientist in an earlier part of my life, I too am suspect of much research and how much the findings contribute to real world outcomes. However, in doing a little nosing around, it turns out that some large insurance companies like Geico specifically request that deer whistles not be placed on their insured vehicles. Maybe this is a ploy to raise insurance rates due to deer strikes or maybe it is because they, the Institute for Highway Safety and a bunch of other groups have found no significant benefits to any deer whistles to date?
People seem to do believe in all kinds of superstitious remedies that seem to get cult followings. Hell, my wife buried a St. Joseph statue upside down in the yard to help sell our home quicker and we aren't Catholics (didn't get the job done the first two times we tried to sell but by golly, if our homes sell fairly quickly, then we are going to thank old St. Joe). If a deer whistle or a gremlin bell makes people feel safer, that is not a necessarily a bad thing but does have the potential to lull the unwitting into thinking they have some aspects of protection that are likely not there (especially if they come upon a deaf dear like the above-poster pointed out). Alert and defensive driving along with knowing when deer are likely to be seen along our roadways (sunrise/dusk) seem to be our best remedies for deer strikes. Knowing how to safely do panic stops on our trikes I would suspect might offer considerably more protection than a deer whistle or gremlin bell? Just thinking...Flame suit on
Not to beat a dead deer but it seems these Whistles are suppose to work at 30 mph and up. If I'm going slower than that and I hit a deer shame on me. Deer do get confused easily it seems, I am a believer science be darned. As Kevin said deer can't be trusted always pay attention and still it can go bad.Travel safe Fred
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Thats right. The county spends a fortune putting up deer crossing signs.... And those ungrateful woods rats, Cross wherever they damn well please...Not to beat a dead deer but it seems these Whistles are suppose to work at 30 mph and up. If I'm going slower than that and I hit a deer shame on me. Deer do get confused easily it seems, I am a believer science be darned. As Kevin said deer can't be trusted always pay attention and still it can go bad.
Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
2019 Tri-Glide.......
They cant read
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Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Maybe they can, But they can't talk, So we'll never know for sure....They cant read
Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
2019 Tri-Glide.......
That might be a good thingMaybe they can, But they can't talk, So we'll never know for sure....
Dont need no stinkin talking deer round here
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
At one time in my life I was making regular week end trips from Chicago to North Central Arkansas. By week end I mean leave at 5:00 PM Friday after work and be back at work 8:00 AM Monday. Did this for about 3 years. (Yes, there was a woman involved!)
The southern 200 miles of the route was on 2 lane rural highways full of deer. I regularly dodged deer for the first 6 months worth of trips before I decided to try deer whistles. Installed the whistles and noticed a definite change in the deer's behavior as I passed them on the side of the road. What I noticed was that as I approached their ears would come up and focus, like little radar antennas, on my position and follow me as I passed. Before the whistles they would move around and tense up as I passed them which definitely increased the pucker factor in the cockpit. I've run deer whistles on all my vehicles ever since.
From my research, it seems to me that the trick to getting the whistles to work depends a lot on the installation placement. There can't be anything blocking the sound wave path between the whistles, the whistles have to be mounted in an area of clear laminar air flow, and they have to be far enough apart to generate the ultrasonic beat frequency that the deer hear. I've never been able to get a good dimension for this so I've guestimated it by following the installation instructions. The instructions said to mount them 1/3rd of the way in from each edge. I try to maintain at least 24" between whistles on my bikes and that seems to work well. The true test to me is to go out and find a deer and watch it's ears. Scary test but a positive reaction can ease the tension moving forward.
One last thing, if their running scared, all bets are off!
Interesting info. Thank you!
Kevin
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