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    I removed the driveshaft from my 2013 Lehman Monarch LLS-ll for inspection and found that the eyes in the flanged yoke that bolts to the differential we’re streched, the caps we’re moving in the yoke.

    I called Champion (who now own Lehman) and they informed me that they only sell complete drive shafts.

    I understand that they are not in the driveline business, but it’s senseless to replace the whole driveshaft when you only need a yoke.

    Has anyone on the board run into this? We’re you able to find a Yoke?
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    I don't know the dimensions of the yoke or the size of the u-joint.

    You have everything you need to find it.

    If this doesn't help, give me the dimensions and I will find it.

    If this is the correct one, let me know so I can keep one in stock......

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    Thanks Jim.....I was corresponding with Bill Swift at Champion......he told me the driveshaft cost is $740 plus shipping.....

    I will measure my yoke and see if we have a match. When I do get a match, I will post it here.

    Do you think it would be ok to use a yoke that doesn’t have a raised face?

    Most yokes do not have one. I assume it’s there to keep the yoke centered with the matting flange on the dif.

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    The raised face is part of the alignment to the pinion flange. Without that it is really free to move wherever it wants.
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    Thanks Jim, I haven’t checked the dimensions yet because I went to the Toronto MC Show to see the new Goldwing today.....I’m in love......

    The problem is I’m now retired on a fixed income and probably shouldn’t buy one....

    I will keep you posted on the yoke issue!

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    That almost looks like a ford yoke. Does it use a ford rear end? Maybe take it to a junk yard and match it up.

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    I know some folks were using the front joint from 98 f 150 on there home brew units and it would be close and definitely worth a look.Now you've give me something else to check on mine.
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    I asked the Champion rep if it was an automotive differential, and he unconvincingly told me it was designed specifically for them!

    I will get some dimensions today and post them here.

    I never thought about going to a junk yard.....I have good friend in that business......I will get in touch with him!

    Thanks for your replies....I’ll keep you posted!

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    Marcel, We have already concluded that the rear differential is a Toyota.

    It only makes sense that the pinion flange and rear driveshaft flange are also Toyota.

    I do believe the shaft is made special for their application but not made from special parts.

    I am only interested in the bolt hole center dimension and the u-joint dimensions.


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    I don't think the cost of the flange or u-joint would be prohibitively expensive but using a junkyard recycled part when a new one is available for roughly the same price kinda defies logic. JMHO
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    Jim, my intention was to have my friend at the junk yard possibly identify my yoke....I don’t plan on buying a used yoke!

    I took the dimensions of the yoke as follows

    end to end dimension of cross.....2-7/16” Cap to Cap

    OD of Caps......1-1/16”

    Bolt Circle......3-1/16”

    Spacing of bolts.......2-3/16” in both directions

    Bore of Raised Face......1-7/16”

    OD of Raised Face......1-13/16”

    Height of Raised Face....3/32”

    Outside width of eyes....2-11/16”

    center of cap to face of flange...1-1/2”

    How did you land on the Toyota components?

    Thanks again for your help!

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    They were using Suzuki until they stopped importing them ... they now use Toyota gears. It is not a factory made assembly, it is specifically made for Champion using a RAV4 gear set (2.92:1 ratio) in a 8" small truck gear assembly. They use the same part in their straight axle and IRS trikes.
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    I’ve been searching on the net for info based on the dimensions I took......so far I’m leaning towards a Suzuki component.

    I’m looking for a Spicer Flanged Yoke 1310 for Suzuki

    Are you saying the Champion flanged yoke is proprietary?

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    I know this is late in the game here,but have you gone to a driveline shop to see if they can fix you up? Or possibly determine what you have?
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    I just took the assembly apart today (Sunday) so I haven’t contacted any driveline folks yet!

    Now that I have the dimensions, I will be in touch with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Wing One View Post
    I just took the assembly apart today (Sunday) so I haven’t contacted any driveline folks yet!

    Now that I have the dimensions, I will be in touch with them.
    The dimensions you gave for the u-joint make it a 1210 type.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEAPCO-N2-2...NZvRVi&vxp=mtr

    GOOGLE SEARCH " NEAPCO N2-2-2323 flange yoke".

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/437-Univers...FZsE9T&vxp=mtr

    Some on eBay...... look at the dimensions.
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    Way to go Jim, I believe you nailed it.......I will contact Neapco tomorrow and make sure it has the raised face......when looking at the specs....it has a Pilot Diameter of 1.81M........I think they are saying 1-13/16” Male.

    That is the OD of the Raised face.


    I will let you know how I make out!

    ​Thanks a bunch.....Marcel


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    FYI....I received my Neapco N2-2-2323 Flanged Yoke, and it’s a perfect match.....it has a raised face just like the original.

    $38 on EBay.....thanks again Jim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Wing One View Post
    FYI....I received my Neapco N2-2-2323 Flanged Yoke, and it’s a perfect match.....it has a raised face just like the original.

    $38 on EBay.....thanks again Jim!
    What about the 1210 u-joint ????
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    The U-joint is a 1210 series.....I bought a Spicer 5-443x locally.......it has a Zurk fitting in one of the end caps!

    $27 cdn

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