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    Default No firearms until you're 21....

    Let me preface this by saying: I'm an NRA supporter 100%, but my views on gun ownership age don't align with NRA positions 100%.

    There's no way any civilian kid at age 18 should be buying or possessing AR type weapons. There's a reason handgun purchases and alcohol purchases are limited to folks 21 and older.

    When I was 18, I thought I knew everything, like most kids did at that age. If someone told me I was too young to buy a gun, I'd have told that person to go pound sand. Unfortunately at age 18, most kids are not fully developed mentally to have and use gunpowder powered weapons responsibly. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

    The other argument is at age 18 kids can join the military & fire weapons. While this is true, they are under close supervision & command. A youngster 18 years old in our military is no longer a child, after boot camp training.

    We're not solving the nations guns in schools problem on a trike forum, but "talking" about it leads to ideas that could spread far, and potentially reach those who can make a difference in Washington.

    No buying of guns, long or hand, for anyone under 21....

    What say you?
    Isn't it weird that in AMERICA, our flag and our culture offend so many people...but our benefits don't???

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    My Sons and now my Grandkids were and are more than capable to handle firearms, At a much younger age than 18....

    That Said, Every parent isn't capable of supervising young children on the respect and responsibility of gun ownership .........

    Tough call on the age thing....
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    Pete, as a retired military serviceman, I have to say just one thing about your post. Just because an 18 year old goes through basic training and weapons training doesn't mean he is no longer a kid. Trust me, some of these young men don't grow up until they are in there mid twenties or so. I know this from many years of supervising them.

    This is a tough call and there is no simple answer. One problem is the left as well as the mainstream media harping on how guns kill.... We all know that guns don't kill, people kill.

    I think there are items and weapons out there that we could do without but just because a few folks don't like them, no reason to take them from everyone. Someone hell bent on hurting others will do it regardless of any law on the books, if not with a gun, the will use knifes, explosives or vehicles.

    My vote would be to do away with gun free zones...eliminate soft targets as these seem to be the #1 target of these cowards.

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    My son did not purchase his handgun until he was 21 and I was OK with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    My son did not purchase his handgun until he was 21 and I was OK with that
    I Sold to my oldest son my 357 mag when he was 18.....That was 27 years ago, And he still has it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    I Sold to my oldest son my 357 mag when he was 18.....That was 27 years ago, And he still has it...
    I have my sons gun, he used it on him self 4 years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    I have my sons gun, he used it on him self 4 years ago
    I can only offer condolences.....And say sorry for your grief....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    I can only offer condolences.....And say sorry for your grief....
    Thank you, He had been going to a pain clinic for a few years

    The pain got to be too much

    I sure miss him
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    X2 on that, Jack...
    Isn't it weird that in AMERICA, our flag and our culture offend so many people...but our benefits don't???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Thank you, He had been going to a pain clinic for a few years

    The pain got to be too much

    I sure miss him
    Not to belabor this, I would have taken that gun spiked the barrel, Removed the cylinder, And thrown each part into a deep lake...
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    My views on the gun buying age are the same as the drinking age ... If this country can send an 18 year old to fight and die for his country, they sure as heck can let him drink and buy a gun.

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    Just another view...

    I don't want a 85yr old ex-military, ex LEO or my grandma, who might be half-blind or semi-senile blowing away the UPS driver because he/she thought someone was breaking in their house, just because he was knocking too hard at the front door.

    Age shouldn't be the only delimiter.
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    Actually would like to see this go to the jungle. This type of gun bull**** pisses me off every time I see it. I'm tired of it. Its a problem of society not gun ownership.

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    There is and won’t be a 100% fix. The military will issue and educate you how to use your weapons. After your tour your state of mind will change . Run ins with the MP’s , hate the police , run ins with ISIS , hate the Muslims, ect. Mental state of mind will not show up on a background check, nor will age make a difference. The gray matter between your ears should determine if one is capable or not to posess a fire arm.

    If a child has interest in firearms, it’s up to the parent to guide them/introduce them in a way that they don’t experiment in there own way. “Queriosity killed the cat”

    So will 21yrs be the answer? Hell, I know 30 yr olds that Scare me!
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    Default no firearms until 21

    i don;t think 21 is the answer.i have owned guns my whole life.alot has to do is the way you was raised up.i was taught hunting at young age,hunted for food to eat.we carried guns to school,took them to shop class ,redid stocks,blued them,and went hunting after school.alot is the way kids are raised,the new video games,internet.DRUGS are the bigge,.they put on facebook,and other web sites what they are going to do.red flags.i don;t understand why kids want to go to school or public places and kill others. Mental health,single parents working 2 jobs,.old days a good trip to wood shed did wonders.now don;t touch,the lawyers will get you.there is a big problem . more laws,we have enough now if they would enforce them.i think armed vets at schools would help. my 2 cents

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    I’ll add another 2 and make it 4

    Every school has a LEO. They walk the hallways. Some poor ain’t got a clue person operates the front door. The LEO should operate the door !
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    Others have solved (or at least reduced this problem).

    Look at HOMICIDE (murder) gun deaths in ANY OTHER 1st world nation than the USA, and the FACTS speak for themselves...

    USA-3.6/100000

    UK-0.06/100000

    AU- 0.16/100000

    BEL- 0.33/100000

    CAN-0.38/100000

    DEN-0.22/100000

    FI-0.21/100000

    FR-0.21/100000

    GER-0.07/100000

    HongKong-0.00/100000

    IRELAND-0.25/100000

    ISRAEL-1.04/100000

    ITALY-0.35/100000

    JAPAN-0.00/100000

    NORWAY-0.10/100000

    Now, look at who is the same or worse. All third world or emerging countries..

    VENEZUELA-39.00/100000

    URAGUAY-4.78/100000

    SWAZILAND-37.16/100000

    SOUTH AFRICA-8.20/100000

    PHILLIPPINES-8.90/100000

    PERU-4.22/100000

    PARAGUAY-5.78/100000

    NICARAGUA-4.68/100000

    Can't argue against facts people...

    Opinions are like as*h**s (everyone has one, and they mostly stink).

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    Today's news is Trump is for raising the gun buying age for all types of guns to 21. = Hope he does that without haste.

    Doesn't mean a 9 year old under supervision cannot handle, hunt, or target practice, only that they cannot purchase a firearm.

    What is wrong with that logic?
    Isn't it weird that in AMERICA, our flag and our culture offend so many people...but our benefits don't???

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    Maybe the legal age should be 65 -

    http://fox43.com/2018/02/19/florida-...hooting-range/

    Just because you have a birthday doesn't mean you're suddenly smart...

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    Good God.

    Taking Guns Away From Law Abiding Citizens Does Not Stop Non-Law Abiding Citizens.

    Lemme just repeat that.

    Taking Guns Away From Law Abiding Citizens Does Not Stop Non-Law Abiding Citizens.

    One more time.

    Taking Guns Away From Law Abiding Citizens Does Not Stop Non-Law Abiding Citizens.

    If some lowlife little piece of excrement wants to be a scum, he's going to be a scum. He'll steal the neighbor's gun, or mommy's gun, or daddy's gun, or grandpa's gun... you get the idea.

    Or he'll get a machete, or a shovel, or a friggin gas can.

    MAKING LAWS THAT RESTRICT PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW LAWS ISN'T GOING TO STOP THOSE WHO DON'T FOLLOW LAWS.

    This ain't difficult to understand, folks...
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