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    Default rear end service?

    As i take my old Harley out for its 6th season it has crossed my mind about rear end service?

    I have the solid axle kit i installed in the spring of 2013 and it is grease filled.

    I cant seem to remember if there is a service interval on that grease in the rear end and if their is please give me PROCEDURE for changing out, as well as lube amount,type,name etc.

    I have had no trouble with it, I just honestly cant remember?
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    Looks like gear oil vs grease...

    Nevermind, it was an indy vs solid I was looking at...
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    To the best of my recollection the belt drive champion straight axle filled with grease didn't really call for service unless a seal blew out or something?

    Hard for me to accept?

    Is there a champion tech out there?
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    I'm not familiar with the engineering of the Champion solid axles, but I envision a double pillow block assy. of some type that would likely need grease/lubrication periodically. Are there any zerk fittings on it?

    If so, I'd try to repack the mechanical assembly with as much fresh grease that it will take.

    Short of tearing it down to repack the parts with grease by hand, you might not have any other options?

    6 years and however many miles is quite awhile to go without maintenance, (in my opinion only)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcombe View Post
    To the best of my recollection the belt drive champion straight axle filled with grease didn't really call for service unless a seal blew out or something?

    Hard for me to accept?

    Is there a champion tech out there?
    That is correct. No service required unless it has leaked.

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    Paul, here is 1 of your old posts

    It looks to me the rear end is factory packed with hard grease the same as garden tractors

    04-28-2015, 08:03 PM











    Champion s/a fluid change.

    Taken from champion website, check out item # 4

    TRIKE CONVERSION KIT

    HARLEY-DAVIDSON



    FLH/FLT & SOFTAIL (FLST)

    Champion Trikes

    (800) 875 0949

    www.championtrikes.com

    Page 1 of 2 Revision 12 November 2008

    Owner’s Maintenance Notes

    1.

    Tire Pressure and Rotation:

    Keep the nominal tire pressure at about 20-25psig. It is not necessary to periodically rotate the trike tires unless you

    experience unusual tire wear.

    2.

    Bearing Lubrication.

    Your Swing Arm, external differential and axle bearings are sealed and do not require greasing. However, should you

    experience unusual differential or axle bearing noise you should take your trike to a Champion Trike Dealer or to your

    motorcycle mechanic for a checkup.

    3.

    Body Lubrication.

    There are no grease fittings on the trike body and no required body lubrication points.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    4.

    Differential lubrication.

    Your differential is a sealed unit and comes filled with high-pressure grease.

    No maintenance is required.





    5.

    Brakes.

    Check your brake system fluid level every 3,000 miles and top-off as necessary. Inspect rear disc brake pads every 10,000

    miles and replace as necessary. Pads are Volkswagen Part # D101P

    6.

    Drive Train.

    Inspect your drive belt as recommended in your motorcycle Owner’s Manual. When properly tensioned after the trike

    conversion, the belt should “deflect” about 1/2 to 5/8 inches when pressed with a force of 10 pounds. Do not use

    commercial belt dressing compounds on the belt: these compounds are designed for friction, not toothed, belts and can

    collect dirt and sand.

    7.

    Suspension System.

    FLH/FLT

    : The suspension system retains your two OEM shocks and is designed to give you the best ride with a load

    of no more than 500 pounds (passengers plus cargo plus trailer tongue weight). Keep the air pressure in the shocks in the

    range of 30-70 psig:

    Softail (FLST)

    : The suspension system retains your single OEM shock and adds two coil-over “helper” mechanical

    shocks. The system is designed to give you the best ride with a load of no more than 500 pounds (passengers plus cargo

    plus trailer tongue weight).

    There is a pre-load adjuster ring on each new shock that is factory-set at the “lowest” setting,

    for the softest ride. Changing this setting will result in a stiffer ride.

    8.

    EZ-Steer (rake kit):

    If your trike is equipped with Champion’s EZ-Steer, the bearings are a wear item. You should follow your motorcycle

    manufacturer’s recommended front-end triple-tree maintenance requirements. Generally these call for an initial service at

    1,000 miles followed by periodic maintenance at 10,000 mile intervals.

    9.

    Electrical:

    TRIKE CONVERSION KIT

    HARLEY-DAVIDSON

    ®

    FLH/FLT & SOFTAIL (FLST)

    Champion Trikes

    (800) 875 0949

    www.championtrikes.com

    Page 2 of 2 Revision 12 November 2008

    Your trike is pre-wired for a trailer connection.

    The harness is just below the trunk door on the underside of the body. The

    wiring is as follows: (Please confirm color coding on your Trike)

    Old Harness New Universal Harness

    (From Mid 2007)

    Running lights Confirm by testing BROWN

    Brake lights RED RED

    Turn signal, right GREEN GREEN

    Turn signal, left YELLOW YELLOW

    Accessory BLUE BLUE

    Ground Confirm by testing

    (White or Black) BLACK

    10.

    Basic Motorcycle Maintenance.

    You should follow the periodic maintenance requirements prescribed in your motorcycle Owner’s Manual for those

    components and systems not replaced by the Champion Trike Conversion Kit. Your trike kit should be checked by a

    professional trike conversion company every 5,000 miles. Every 10,000 miles you should check the trike kit fasteners for

    tightness.

    11.

    Specifications

    Overall Length: 66”

    Body Length: 92”

    Wheel Base: 53”

    Load Capacity: 620 Lb

    Tire Size (15”): 205 / 70 / R15

    Wheel Size (15”) (4 lug) Offset +35 mm 15x7JJ 4x4.5 – (Current Installations – Alum Rear End)

    Wheel Size (15”) (5 lug) Offset +35 mm 15x7JJ 5x4.5 – (Later Installations – Black Rear End)

    Tire Size (16”) 215 / 60 / R16

    Wheel Size (16”) (5 lug) Offset +40 mm 16x7JJ 5x4.5 – (First Installations – Black Rear End)

    Tire Pressure: 20 PSI

    Suspension: See paragraph 7 above

    Rear Differential: Custom-built rear differential utilizing OEM drive belt.

    Brakes: Original front plus 2 high performance disc brakes at rear.

    Storage Capacity: 3.75 cubic feet. 2 full-face helmets and additional storage.









    Enjoy life now!----------IT HAS AN EXPERATION DATE



    1989 HARLEY DAVIDSON TOUR GLIDE ULTRA CHAMPION- A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING-(CUT YOUR WOLF LOOSE!)



    the difference between a good trike and a bad one depends entirely on the integrity of it's builder!









    Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
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    Thanks for passing my own info back to me amigo, I guess i should believe myself, Yes?

    I swear with my health problems i cant remember things the way i used too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Paul, here is 1 of your old posts

    It looks to me the rear end is factory packed with hard grease the same as garden tractors

    04-28-2015, 08:03 PM









    Champion s/a fluid change.

    Taken from champion website, check out item # 4

    TRIKE CONVERSION KIT

    HARLEY-DAVIDSON



    FLH/FLT & SOFTAIL (FLST)

    Champion Trikes

    (800) 875 0949

    www.championtrikes.com

    Page 1 of 2 Revision 12 November 2008

    Owner’s Maintenance Notes

    1.

    Tire Pressure and Rotation:

    Keep the nominal tire pressure at about 20-25psig. It is not necessary to periodically rotate the trike tires unless you

    experience unusual tire wear.

    2.

    Bearing Lubrication.

    Your Swing Arm, external differential and axle bearings are sealed and do not require greasing. However, should you

    experience unusual differential or axle bearing noise you should take your trike to a Champion Trike Dealer or to your

    motorcycle mechanic for a checkup.

    3.

    Body Lubrication.

    There are no grease fittings on the trike body and no required body lubrication points.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    4.

    Differential lubrication.

    Your differential is a sealed unit and comes filled with high-pressure grease.

    No maintenance is required.





    5.

    Brakes.

    Check your brake system fluid level every 3,000 miles and top-off as necessary. Inspect rear disc brake pads every 10,000

    miles and replace as necessary. Pads are Volkswagen Part # D101P

    6.

    Drive Train.

    Inspect your drive belt as recommended in your motorcycle Owner’s Manual. When properly tensioned after the trike

    conversion, the belt should “deflect” about 1/2 to 5/8 inches when pressed with a force of 10 pounds. Do not use

    commercial belt dressing compounds on the belt: these compounds are designed for friction, not toothed, belts and can

    collect dirt and sand.

    7.

    Suspension System.

    FLH/FLT

    : The suspension system retains your two OEM shocks and is designed to give you the best ride with a load

    of no more than 500 pounds (passengers plus cargo plus trailer tongue weight). Keep the air pressure in the shocks in the

    range of 30-70 psig:

    Softail (FLST)

    : The suspension system retains your single OEM shock and adds two coil-over “helper” mechanical

    shocks. The system is designed to give you the best ride with a load of no more than 500 pounds (passengers plus cargo

    plus trailer tongue weight).

    There is a pre-load adjuster ring on each new shock that is factory-set at the “lowest” setting,

    for the softest ride. Changing this setting will result in a stiffer ride.

    8.

    EZ-Steer (rake kit):

    If your trike is equipped with Champion’s EZ-Steer, the bearings are a wear item. You should follow your motorcycle

    manufacturer’s recommended front-end triple-tree maintenance requirements. Generally these call for an initial service at

    1,000 miles followed by periodic maintenance at 10,000 mile intervals.

    9.

    Electrical:

    TRIKE CONVERSION KIT

    HARLEY-DAVIDSON

    ®

    FLH/FLT & SOFTAIL (FLST)

    Champion Trikes

    (800) 875 0949

    www.championtrikes.com

    Page 2 of 2 Revision 12 November 2008

    Your trike is pre-wired for a trailer connection.

    The harness is just below the trunk door on the underside of the body. The

    wiring is as follows: (Please confirm color coding on your Trike)

    Old Harness New Universal Harness

    (From Mid 2007)

    Running lights Confirm by testing BROWN

    Brake lights RED RED

    Turn signal, right GREEN GREEN

    Turn signal, left YELLOW YELLOW

    Accessory BLUE BLUE

    Ground Confirm by testing

    (White or Black) BLACK

    10.

    Basic Motorcycle Maintenance.

    You should follow the periodic maintenance requirements prescribed in your motorcycle Owner’s Manual for those

    components and systems not replaced by the Champion Trike Conversion Kit. Your trike kit should be checked by a

    professional trike conversion company every 5,000 miles. Every 10,000 miles you should check the trike kit fasteners for

    tightness.

    11.

    Specifications

    Overall Length: 66”

    Body Length: 92”

    Wheel Base: 53”

    Load Capacity: 620 Lb

    Tire Size (15”): 205 / 70 / R15

    Wheel Size (15”) (4 lug) Offset +35 mm 15x7JJ 4x4.5 – (Current Installations – Alum Rear End)

    Wheel Size (15”) (5 lug) Offset +35 mm 15x7JJ 5x4.5 – (Later Installations – Black Rear End)

    Tire Size (16”) 215 / 60 / R16

    Wheel Size (16”) (5 lug) Offset +40 mm 16x7JJ 5x4.5 – (First Installations – Black Rear End)

    Tire Pressure: 20 PSI

    Suspension: See paragraph 7 above

    Rear Differential: Custom-built rear differential utilizing OEM drive belt.

    Brakes: Original front plus 2 high performance disc brakes at rear.

    Storage Capacity: 3.75 cubic feet. 2 full-face helmets and additional storage.







    Enjoy life now!----------IT HAS AN EXPERATION DATE



    1989 HARLEY DAVIDSON TOUR GLIDE ULTRA CHAMPION- A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING-(CUT YOUR WOLF LOOSE!)



    the difference between a good trike and a bad one depends entirely on the integrity of it's builder!









    Enjoy life now!----------IT HAS AN EXPERATION DATE

    1989 HARLEY DAVIDSON TOUR GLIDE ULTRA CHAMPION- A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING-(CUT YOUR WOLF LOOSE!)


    the difference between a good trike and a bad one depends entirely on the integrity of it's builder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Zook View Post
    That is correct. No service required unless it has leaked.
    Thanks for looking out for me again Randy.

    I'm ready for spring, begining to feel better just for thinking about hitting the highway.
    Enjoy life now!----------IT HAS AN EXPERATION DATE

    1989 HARLEY DAVIDSON TOUR GLIDE ULTRA CHAMPION- A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING-(CUT YOUR WOLF LOOSE!)


    the difference between a good trike and a bad one depends entirely on the integrity of it's builder!

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