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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Stonecold is his name

    The only thing I see wrong here is now you have altered your bike. If HD does come out with a real fix you may not be covered having altered your bike
    Yep, Thats what they told me....Non-authorized part...Also i read Stonecolds post/fix..

    And it is a lot to digest , So i might be wrong 'But i don't think anyone has driven more than 5k using his fix..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Stonecold is his name

    The only thing I see wrong here is now you have altered your bike. If HD does come out with a real fix you may not be covered having altered your bike
    Exactly. I just hope HD has a real fix before my warrantee runs out.

    Funny thing. I just got a call from the sales people at Black Hills HD (where I bought mine) telling me how many Trike they will have for sale at the Rally this year. HAHA. As if I'm going to buy another headache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    Frank i have contacted a lemon law attorney [schonos@lemonlaw.com] and they will be sending me a packed with forms to fill out.....Win or lose there is no charge .....

    There could be one of four scenarios....

    1] Full purchase price back...

    2] Up grade to a new Trike.....

    3] Finally fix it...With money back money back for a Trike with a repair record...

    4] Thats to be seen....??
    Re #2 - WHY would someone upgrade to ANOTHER problem trike????????


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    Quote Originally Posted by 520fd View Post
    Exactly. I just hope HD has a real fix before my warrantee runs out.

    Funny thing. I just got a call from the sales people at Black Hills HD (where I bought mine) telling me how many Trike they will have for sale at the Rally this year. HAHA. As if I'm going to buy another headache.
    Jerry, When you get to the rally, Nonchalantly ask them if they ever heard of the oil migration ......Bet i know what they will say; Never heard a thing about it..
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    NO..Was the answer , you might bind up the cluch ...??
    I dunno, My guess is the clutch may slip, harder to find neutral, The clutch is wet but not to be drowned in fluid

    So it is alright to ride the bike with low fluid in the tranny but over full primary is ok? Sheeeeez, can it get any more convoluted than this? Whilst HD spins this as they all do it and is normal, why has this not been reported with earnest til now and HD knows their fix does not work, they are putting a band aid on a broken leg and hoping the public will accept it and remain loyal, NAH I aint drinkin the Kool Aid

    What ever happened to the owners manual ( I Am para phrasing here) to protect your investment {read IE make sure your fluids are up} before riding

    Looks like HD will be having to re write new owners manuals for future sales?
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    They need to look at 2 bikes that don't do it & compare them to 2 bikes that do. I'm glad I'm a non-migrater(for now), but the other forum says any bike/trike will do it if ridden at high RPM's. I am now really glad I initially chose to run

    Lucas High Performance 20W-50 motorcycle oil in all 3 holes.

    I'm not changing brands now. I want to stay a non-migrater.

    Hey Jack, is it time for another oil thread?
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    Hey Jack, is it time for another oil thread?
    Humor me

    Harley cannot make up its mind, first 20-50 dino oil is OK, next Syn3 is OK, BUT wait, now Formula + is OK for up to 20K HMMMMM my owners manual does not say that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    I dunno, My guess is the clutch may slip, harder to find neutral, The clutch is wet but not to be drowned in fluid

    So it is alright to ride the bike with low fluid in the tranny but over full primary is ok? Sheeeeez, can it get any more convoluted than this? Whilst HD spins this as they all do it and is normal, why has this not been reported with earnest til now and HD knows their fix does not work, they are putting a band aid on a broken leg and hoping the public will accept it and remain loyal, NAH I aint drinkin the Kool Aid

    What ever happened to the owners manual ( I Am para phrasing here) to protect your investment {read IE make sure your fluids are up} before riding

    Looks like HD will be having to re write new owners manuals for future sales?
    This for what its worth......If you keep on adding to the trans then it will bind up the cluch , Happened to one member here , Wish i could remember their name..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    This for what its worth......If you keep on adding to the trans then it will bind up the cluch , Happened to one member here , Wish i could remember their name..
    If mine ever does start to transfer and I will know ahead of time I hope my clutch and tranny both blow up, I may help that a long a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Humor me

    Harley cannot make up its mind, first 20-50 dino oil is OK, next Syn3 is OK, BUT wait, now Formula + is OK for up to 20K HMMMMM my owners manual does not say that
    Actually, I'm saving my Lucas for the engine. At my 10,000 mile service, I'm putting in the Quicksilver 20W-50 I got from Walmart for $4 a quart in my transmission & differential.

    I have you to thank for telling me about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    Actually, I'm saving my Lucas for the engine. At my 10,000 mile service, I'm putting in the Quicksilver 20W-50 I got from Walmart for $4 a quart in my transmission & differential.

    I have you to thank for telling me about that.
    I think your trike will like it

    I changed my 15 over @ 1k miles

    My M8 got changed @ the same mileage, both trikes appear to like this oil

    I do not get the valve train clatter like Mobil1 oil does
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    i just dropped my trike at the dealer after putting on the requested 1000 miles to test out the transmission oil. they all confirmed that the oil was low. I was expecting the run around about my problem but was told they would order the repair parts from Harley and would call when the repair was complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luzierg View Post
    i just dropped my trike at the dealer after putting on the requested 1000 miles to test out the transmission oil. they all confirmed that the oil was low. I was expecting the run around about my problem but was told they would order the repair parts from Harley and would call when the repair was complete.
    Good Luck Gary, please post what parts they are using on yours
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    Quote Originally Posted by 520fd View Post
    I'm not sure if anyone here has read the article on the HDFORUM or not. But very interesting. It's called "the fix is in" A guy made a shaft nut alteration and installed a seal basically. Long, but worth the read. If Harley doesn't do this, than they don't want to fix it. He sells the mod's for $190.00. Includes the altered nut, the seal, and milled case. You have to send your case back to him. I think he has a good product. Will see if HD ever has a permanente fix or not.
    So in the word case you mean the trans case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykneesbehurtin View Post
    So in the word case you mean the trans case.
    Steve, I think he meant to say the trap door the actuator bolts onto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykneesbehurtin View Post
    So in the word case you mean the trans case.
    I'm sorry, but what I meant to say is the side cover. He sends the side covers out to be machined and send them with the kit. I think your supposed to send your cover back to him.

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    I have followed that repair on the forum, no doubt it will probably be better than The MOCO, however we risk voiding our warranty using this fix JMO

    I will wait til my extended warranty runs out or my tranny blows up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    I have followed that repair on the forum, no doubt it will probably be better than The MOCO, however we risk voiding our warranty using this fix JMO

    I will wait til my extended warranty runs out or my tranny blows up
    I'm with you on that Jack. Hopefully Harley has a solid fix before the warrantee runs out. In my case, they have 1 year to find it. I think HD has been keeping a close eye on their discussion. He actually want's HD to use his fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 520fd View Post
    I'm with you on that Jack. Hopefully Harley has a solid fix before the warrantee runs out. In my case, they have 1 year to find it. I think HD has been keeping a close eye on their discussion. He actually want's HD to use his fix.
    Apparently this issue hasn't made it to the Western Colorado dealers. I asked the service manager, the parts manager and the sales manager .... told them all I was considering an 18 free but was afraid of this issue. Nada ... could be a good coverup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzHe View Post
    Apparently this issue hasn't made it to the Western Colorado dealers. I asked the service manager, the parts manager and the sales manager .... told them all I was considering an 18 free but was afraid of this issue. Nada ... could be a good coverup.
    Ask them about this Harley-Davidson Milwaukee Eight Transmission Fluid Leaking Into The Primary (TA0022)

    This is an internal bulletin dealers have access to
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