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Thread: TG Reverse motor went out at 21,000 miles!

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    Default TG Reverse motor went out at 21,000 miles!

    Got back from a few days at the coast here in Texas (Corpus Christi)............when I got back and put the TG in reverse = it rolled a couple of feet and just quit workin'!!!

    ...Yes, I checked the red button and little lever fuse (wasn't blown) and all I got was a "Click" sound when I hit reverse........Wife didn't like pushing TG in reverse when needed (didn't bother me so much ) and demanded an immediate trip to the HD Dealer for a fix!

    ...So, just got it back from dealer and sure enough the reverse motor had burnt out or whatever (who knows why)...........This is on my 2016 TG and was fully covered by warranty.

    .......If it hadn't been for warranty it would have cost me $1395.00 and .7hrs labor...plus tax of course!

    ..........Wow what a rip cost for just a lousy reverse motor (small starter motor)

    ...............Don't know why I'm posting this.........guess it was just because I was "AGASP!" at what these things cost!

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster57 View Post
    Got back from a few days at the coast here in Texas (Corpus Christi)............when I got back and put the TG in reverse = it rolled a couple of feet and just quit workin'!!!

    ...Yes, I checked the red button and little lever fuse (wasn't blown) and all I got was a "Click" sound when I hit reverse........Wife didn't like pushing TG in reverse when needed (didn't bother me so much ) and demanded an immediate trip to the HD Dealer for a fix!

    ...So, just got it back from dealer and sure enough the reverse motor had burnt out or whatever (who knows why)...........This is on my 2016 TG and was fully covered by warranty.

    .......If it hadn't been for warranty it would have cost me $1395.00 and .7hrs labor...plus tax of course!

    ..........Wow what a rip cost for just a lousy reverse motor (small starter motor)

    ...............Don't know why I'm posting this.........guess it was just because I was "AGASP!" at what these things cost!

    Cheers!
    When mine went out and out of warranty i put in a mechanical reverse, 2011 Tri. And i really do miss having it in my 2017...

    By the way the reverse motor is not a starter motor....Its a high toque slow spinning [geared down] Electric motor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    When mine went out and out of warranty i put in a mechanical reverse, 2011 Tri. And i really do miss having it in my 2017...

    By the way the reverse motor is not a starter motor....Its a high toque slow spinning [geared down] Electric motor...
    .........Well maybe it aint' a starter motor, but it sure looked like one to me!......kinda sounds like one too.

    Cheers!

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    I think you did this all wrong.Shoulda found a way to convince your wife that pushing the trike has some positive benefit for her.Save the baby electrons. Help the environment by not depleting the ozone layer.And always the winner:hey it's good excersise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino 2 View Post
    When mine went out and out of warranty i put in a mechanical reverse, 2011 Tri. And i really do miss having it in my 2017...

    By the way the reverse motor is not a starter motor....Its a high toque slow spinning [geared down] Electric motor...
    Hey Bob, read this

    The Harley Davidson Tri Glide Reverse motor is basically an automotive starter with a specially developed drive end assembly that contains 2 planetary gear assemblies. Planetary gears have been used by many different manufactures over the years as a reliable method to convert high speed electric motors into usable torque. In this case, HD has used the twin planetary set up to provide a handy low speed motor with plenty of power to move an entire vehicle (in reverse) with passengers.

    I am going to figure this motor out, there has to be a cross over some where

    U can bet the HD engineers did NOT come up with this, they farmed it out I bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Hey Bob, read this

    The Harley Davidson Tri Glide Reverse motor is basically an automotive starter with a specially developed drive end assembly that contains 2 planetary gear assemblies. Planetary gears have been used by many different manufactures over the years as a reliable method to convert high speed electric motors into usable torque. In this case, HD has used the twin planetary set up to provide a handy low speed motor with plenty of power to move an entire vehicle (in reverse) with passengers.

    I am going to figure this motor out, there has to be a cross over some where

    U can bet the HD engineers did NOT come up with this, they farmed it out I bet

    Back a few years ago, As soon as i handed the motor to a rebuilder, [His shop was like walking back into the 50's] He said thats an Hitachi motor.....Now that was like i said a few years ago, They might have changed suppliers...
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    Perhaps were looking in the wrong place.Look to the sky-see the M134? Too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Road Dog View Post
    Perhaps were looking in the wrong place.Look to the sky-see the M134? Too late.
    Can't afford to hold the trigger for more than 5 seconds.....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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    Default Mine went out at 9000 miles

    I have a 2013 I bought used, so no warranty. When I removed it and took it apart, one of the brushes was not making contact. I removed all the white lithium grease and replaced it with high temp bearing grease. It seems to be less noisy and works great.

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    Hey coalhandler!

    Thats good to know!......when my warranty runs out and reverse goes out again (probably will).....I will remember to look for the brushes as a possible cure!

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coalhandler View Post
    I have a 2013 I bought used, so no warranty. When I removed it and took it apart, one of the brushes was not making contact. I removed all the white lithium grease and replaced it with high temp bearing grease. It seems to be less noisy and works great.
    Does the reverse motor come out from bottom or can you get it out from top. My 2012 Reverse motor Just went south

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    Quote Originally Posted by onebadeagle View Post
    Does the reverse motor come out from bottom or can you get it out from top. My 2012 Reverse motor Just went south
    I have not had to pull mine out yet

    I do believe it can be pulled out from the bottom, that is what I see when I jacked up the back end
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    If you search the forum you can find info on the reverse motor. Members have stated places will rebuild it for $100-200. Hopefully, someone will post the info soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    If you search the forum you can find info on the reverse motor. Members have stated places will rebuild it for $100-200. Hopefully, someone will post the info soon.
    https://alternatorstarterrebuildkits...tor-83388-09a/

    Here is the link

    If you are handy you can get the parts and DIY to save some money
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    Quote Originally Posted by onebadeagle View Post
    Does the reverse motor come out from bottom or can you get it out from top. My 2012 Reverse motor Just went south
    I removed mine 3 times from the bottom,[11 T/G] Remove the right side wheel and pull/unbolt it from that way..The 4th time i just left it in and installed a mechanical reverse...If and when it gos on my 17 T/G It will be replaced with an mechanical...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster57 View Post
    Got back from a few days at the coast here in Texas (Corpus Christi)............when I got back and put the TG in reverse = it rolled a couple of feet and just quit workin'!!!

    ...Yes, I checked the red button and little lever fuse (wasn't blown) and all I got was a "Click" sound when I hit reverse........Wife didn't like pushing TG in reverse when needed (didn't bother me so much ) and demanded an immediate trip to the HD Dealer for a fix!verse

    ...So, just got it back from dealer and sure enough the reverse motor had burnt out or whatever (who knows why)...........This is on my 2016 TG and was fully covered by warranty.

    .......If it hadn't been for warranty it would have cost me $1395.00 and .7hrs labor...plus tax of course!

    ..........Wow what a rip cost for just a lousy reverse motor (small starter motor)

    ...............Don't know why I'm posting this.........guess it was just because I was "AGASP!" at what these things cost!

    Cheers!
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    I have a reverse motor that I'd like to sell.

    I couldn't stand the sound of it, makes everybody within 50 feet look to see what's the matter...or the way it makes the trike jump back when you use it.

    I got the mechanical reverse gear from Papa Zook. What a pleasure to use.

    Make me an offer...

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    There is a electrical shop not far from where I live that rebuilds elec motors. I am sure should mine go belly up they will rebuild it for me Vs buying a new one.

    I have had them do a alternator for me off my truck, good work fair price.

    If I keep this bike I may look into a mechanical reverse, time will tell.

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    Is it still available? if so Call me @540-847-7451

    Quote Originally Posted by Firewrench22 View Post
    I have a reverse motor that I'd like to sell.

    I couldn't stand the sound of it, makes everybody within 50 feet look to see what's the matter...or the way it makes the trike jump back when you use it.

    I got the mechanical reverse gear from Papa Zook. What a pleasure to use.

    Make me an offer...

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    Yes.

    I'll give you a call tomorrow 6/15

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