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Thread: Any ideas on how to stop heat radiating up through the seat?

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    Default Any ideas on how to stop heat radiating up through the seat?

    When the temps get high, the Triglide heats up...no surprise there. I've done quite a bit to lower engine temps and that's worked well. But when I ride, I can feel the heat radiating up through my seat. It's a stock seat and I use a sheep skin cover and can still feel the heat roasting my butt. It's not unbearable, just more annoying that it's happening. So I'm looking for suggestions on how I can reduce the heat coming up through the seat. Tried searching existing threads, but couldn't find anything.

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    I use something like this product. Seems to work pretty good. I used upholstery spray adhesive to hold it in place on the bottom of the seat. Double layered it on the sides underneath.

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    Have a look at DEI. Heat shielding products. I used one of their hose clamp style shields over the cat after my passenger complained of heat on her boot.After all that she dumps me.Said I behave like an impetuous teenager.Whats that mean?Oh well, I gotta be me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan View Post
    I use something like this product. Seems to work pretty good. I used upholstery spray adhesive to hold it in place on the bottom of the seat. Double layered it on the sides underneath.

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    I have the same problem on my Indian but have been afraid to use anything that has a foil side to it for fear of shorting something out. There isn't much room under the Indian saddle and they stuff a bunch in there including the ECM. Been a feel people have to replace their ECM just changing the battery. Plus if I reflect heat back down toward the rear jug I thought it would just cause a never ending circle of getting hotter and hotter. The rear jug is the problem on the Indian. May be the same on HD's. I removed the cat and changed the air/fuel mixture with a tuner but in summer it still gets hot. If that lining got loose and touched something I could be in much worse shape than roast rump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlo View Post
    When the temps get high, the Triglide heats up...no surprise there. I've done quite a bit to lower engine temps and that's worked well. But when I ride, I can feel the heat radiating up through my seat. It's a stock seat and I use a sheep skin cover and can still feel the heat roasting my butt. It's not unbearable, just more annoying that it's happening. So I'm looking for suggestions on how I can reduce the heat coming up through the seat. Tried searching existing threads, but couldn't find anything.

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    If there's enough heat that you're feeling it thru the seat, I suspect there is too much heat to be good for the engine.

    Cooling down the engine will be good for it, AND for you.

    Couple of good reports here-

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    Here's the solution = beaded seat pad. It's like an air conditioner. Screw the sheepskin cover and side deflectors.

    When I got my first pad, I installed it in December and went for a ride. Wrong move. Just about froze the boys - had to stop and take it off immediately. Since then I've traveled all over and really appreciated it going through CA/NV/AZ/NM deserts.

    I also have the H-D Road Zepplin air seat which also helps insulate the heat.
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    Yeah, the sheepskin is great for winter I've found but not so great in summer.
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    Thanks for all the suggestions!

    I have done quite a bit to cool the beast down:

    Replaced the header, no Cat

    Replaced the mufflers (E-Series)

    Added deflectors over the lower fairings to push more cool air on the engine

    Removed left side heat deflector

    added tank lift (front and back)

    LoveJugs cooling fans

    PowerVision tuner

    All these together have reduced engine temps recorded on the PV to where I now don't go above 270 on summer days, which is about 50+ degrees lower than it used to run. Yes, it used to get to 320 on hot days when I first bought the PV before doing anything else. Still the seat gets warm and wondered if there might be an easy solution. Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlo View Post
    Thanks for all the suggestions!

    I have done quite a bit to cool the beast down:

    Replaced the header, no Cat

    Replaced the mufflers (E-Series)

    Added deflectors over the lower fairings to push more cool air on the engine

    Removed left side heat deflector

    added tank lift (front and back)

    LoveJugs cooling fans

    PowerVision tuner

    All these together have reduced engine temps recorded on the PV to where I now don't go above 270 on summer days, which is about 50+ degrees lower than it used to run. Yes, it used to get to 320 on hot days when I first bought the PV before doing anything else. Still the seat gets warm and wondered if there might be an easy solution. Thanks again.
    That is great that you got the temps down by 50*. Unfortunately 270 is still to hot...both for you and the engine.

    Do you experience these temps in stop-n-go/slow moving traffic or at speed, or both?

    With that info I might be able to direct you on what you can do to lower the temps to be comfortable to you, and to be good for the engine.

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    Kevin,

    It gets to that temperature when riding the highway and stop and go when it's getting hot out. Cooler temps like I had on a three day trip I just returned from (low to mid 80's), the engine temps stayed in the 250 range, no stop and go, just back roads through OK, TX, NM, CO, KS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoSlo View Post
    Kevin,

    It gets to that temperature when riding the highway and stop and go when it's getting hot out. Cooler temps like I had on a three day trip I just returned from (low to mid 80's), the engine temps stayed in the 250 range, no stop and go, just back roads through OK, TX, NM, CO, KS.
    Ack...that's just hotter than it should be.

    First thing...if you have fork wings or a fork baffle, getting rid of those will drop temps by around 20 degrees.

    If not, then there are a few things you can do that will get you a little bit cooler, and one thing that will make a bigger difference. btw, I did all these things on my 2011, which was essentially the same at your 2013.

    1. Get an EBS to stop feed that hot, oily, oxygen depleted air into your air cleaner. This is good for a 5-10* drop

    2. Double check your PV tune...it can make a 5-10* difference. If you want, email me and I can send you a good tune for you TG. Kevin@DKCustomProducts.com

    3. Not that you should not do the above, but this will make the biggest change...add a 2nd oil cooler. This will give a solid 20* drop in temps.

    4. An oil filter relocation will get you 8-10 degree drop, and make oil changes easier

    5. An expensive option, but it should get a 15-20* drop, is to replace the factory oil cooler with a more efficient and effective fan assisted oil cooler. This one might be the most painful, psychologically...since we already have that factory oil cooler...why could HD not just make a good one to start with.

    The goal is to get it to run about 210-220 on 80* days and 230 on the hottest day. Going up a steep hill, loaded down, against a headwind, in 100* ambient temps might bump it to 240-250, but then, even in normal riding on a 100* day, you don't want to see over 230.

    I believe if you do the thing above, 1 at a time, until you reach those optimum temps, you probably won't feel the heat in the seat (because of approximately a 40* drop in temps), and you will definitely be doing your engine a favor.

    I did had to do all of the 5 things listed above on my 2011 and 1-4 on my 2014 to get my temps to the optimum range.

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