Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Yep, they are circling the hole, going down slowly. No more American Made.
2013 Tri-Glide with a few extras
Vietnam Vet 66 / 67
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If you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it.
IMO there are a few reasons for this, Millenials do not want and cannot afford heavy weight bikes, The deal HD made with the EPA has scared some buyers off, competition here is getting tougher
HD will still be made or assembled here in USA, however we will see more off shore vendors step up with cheaper inferior parts JMO
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
The main reason is the EU tariff's are adding about $2,500 to the price of their motorcycles.
Not cool at all!
2017 Harley Davidson Freewheeler (107 cu.in. vivid black).
What I would like to know is Where are the engines and trannys going to be assembled?
And will they face the same oil migration problems?
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Good question Jack.
I forgot to mention the MoCo's stock dropped 6% today.
2017 Harley Davidson Freewheeler (107 cu.in. vivid black).
Mike.....Do you really think Harley is going to build a 200 million dollar +- factory ,When they [Harley] just got notice of a tariff increase this week....No way''' They have been planing this move for years now...It has nothing to do with tariffs.... Especially when the tariffs might not permanent and just a negotiating tactic.... This is just Harleys excuse ...Harley is running out of Americans who have the need/want to Ride a Harley..
Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
2019 Tri-Glide.......
Yes in fact they are building and should open this year in Thailand
This will complement the factories in Brazil and India already running
MANUFACTURING
USA, Missouri, Kansas City – Vehicle and Powertrain Operations.
USA, Pennsylvania, York – Vehicle and Powertrain Operations.
USA, Wisconsin, Menomonee Falls – Powertrain Operations.
USA, Wisconsin, Tomahawk – Tomahawk Operations
Australia, Adelaide – New Castalloy
Brazil, Manaus –Harley-Davidson do Brasil Ltda Assembly Plant
India, Bawal – Harley-Davidson India Bawal Assembly Plant
Thailand, Rayong – Thailand Sales Office and Assembly Plant
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
So my question is ... will the EU want to by a Harley built in Mexico or wherever? Cause unless it's built and shipped from another country ... they will still see the tariff's.
I think HD is banking on the EU doing business with them on a HUGE market level now
The US market is losing ground and HD has to answer to the board
The next logical move IMO is give them what they want and move forward or pay it out in capital gains and risk the American market?
I dunno, They ( HD) needs IMO to restore the American confidence Fix the M8 problems, hold their prices and re gain market share or get crushed by Indian and Honda in the heavy weight market
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
enough guys
Stallion #406 // 2013 Tri-Glide
I think HD bit themselves in the butt big time with the tariff grandstanding. They have been saying for more then a year that they would be moving more production overseas. By trying to say it's all Trumps fault they pissed off a large segment of their core market in the USA. I predict that their stock and market share will take a dive. Business and politics are a losing formula.