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    Default Taking off in 2nd on vw trike?

    Ill just get to the point. Never driven manual. And im mechanically stupid. So... i bought a vw trike. Ughhh type 3?..i think. 78? 1600cc idfk. Point is..Im getting the hang of it but... The Guy said not to take off in first because ill do a wheelie. Recommended i take off in second. Sometimes i dont giver enough and kill it. Sometimes i jolt forward a little faster than id like. Is this because its second gear? Just seems like gas pedal (throttle, break, clutch all foot opporated) gives a bit too much oomph without pressing hard at all. Ive popped several small wheelies in 2nd taking off.. so is taking off in 3rd better? Im sure alot of it is sloppy clutch work. But does anyone else with a VW trike have to start off in second? Was i misinformed? Would taking off in 3rd be smoother and less agressive? Like take off in 3rd- move down to 2nd once im going and then up to 3rd again after ive buikt some speed Or is 1st fine? Again im about 3 days deep into learning manual and i cannot stress how mechanically oblivious i am.kinda why i got this also. A. Looks badass B. Fun way to learn manual. C. Simple enough very exposed design. Ive learned alot just by looking at the thing. Its like a stick with handle bars and an engine haha. But yeah...help

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    It sounds like the best thing to do is practice. If the throttle doesn't feel smooth you may need a new cable. Second gear is fine to start out. IMO third would be too high. If you can find an empty parking lot, practice there until you develop the coordination and feel for a nice smooth takeoff. It shouldn't take much throttle to get moving in second.

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    If you practice I bet you can start in first. Go easy and feather the clutch. Starting in 3rd you will be riding the clutch, not a good thing expect faster clutch wear
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    Greetings and welcome to another day.

    You can take off in 2nd gear, or even 3rd if you good enough, but I would not recommend it to any one unless their 1st gear is real low and only used for towing or off road type conditions.

    Ho'

    w lite the front end is also can add to how easy the front end lifts up along with a short frame trike, as they seem easy to lift up also.

    I have a Ed Roth style trike that moves with at least a 1600cc and its design is low to the ground, yet it still comes up off the ground.

    I did find the center frame tube filled with buck shot (lead weight) the entire length of the trike.

    I do not start off in 2nd gear, no reason for it, as it is only practice with a soft foot and a easy twist on the throttle. It takes much time to get it down.

    A smooth throttle is ideal, not a tight one were a flinch makes the RPM's race, but a little free play is nice, not much, just that flinch amount is how I like it, but each rider is different and you can adjust it to how you like it.

    To much free play in the throttle cable will take away from the top end of the cable travel, (means you do not get to open the carb's on the way.)

    Always want a throttle cable to be adjusted so the carbs open fully when the throttle is fully twisted, or close to that, again something each rider does adjust for their own comfort and what not.

    Practice a little clutch first so you feel the engagement starting to happen and a little throttle at this point (a little free play is nice here) because you ease off that clutch and as it engages more you give a little more fuel to carbs ( clutch engagement happens in the lower end of pedal travel, not when it is all the way out, so you just have to come off with the clutch a little slow and softer, remember to feel your clutch engagement prior to any throttle is applied, and do not let off the clutch fast or Wheelie time.....and just shut down the throttle to end wheelie.

    Do you have a wheelie bar on the trike ? Anything keeping the engine or tail pipes from slamming into the ground ?

    Be safe, open area is good practice area, like the parking lot idea. Or you can practice in your drive way like I did.

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    Welcome Adam, I agree with Kurt, practice. I am mechanically declined, but fortunately I have a very good and understanding mechanic. I have a 1600 '71, I always start in 1st. and have never tried 2nd. My knees are not real reliable and a smooth clutch has been a bit of a problem. I found that adjusting the clutch to the catch in my knee helped a lot. Also there is a tube that the clutch cable runs through on the tranny end near the cable adjuster, I forget what it is called. Having the bend in it right makes a lot of difference in the pressure needed for the clutch. I have also found that setting the clutch at a stop in advance helps me look like I'm a better rider, it doesn't jump as much. One foot on the brake and let the clutch out until I feel it start to engage and hold. I have also found that not being too hard on old folks (me) helps. Good luck and have fun.

    Thanks for your time.

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    Pictures? We love pictures! Also helps with feedback.

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    Practice.

    As light in the front that a vw trike can be....wheelies are a common thing.

    Practice, learn how to control it. Learn how to use first gear. Sooner or later you will have to use it to start on a hill, ect.

    Once you learn how to control it.....then the fun starts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vwbug72501 View Post
    Pictures? We love pictures! Also helps with feedback.
    Ive been trying to figure out how lol. Im on my phone and the tutorial only seemed to be for computer.

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    But thanks everyone for the helpful advice. Ill do some more practicing. And ill post pics as soon as i figure out how lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam9015 View Post
    But thanks everyone for the helpful advice. Ill do some more practicing. And ill post pics as soon as i figure out how lol
    personally i would get enough weight on the front an not worry about the wheelies.... imo if it is light enough to wheelie "at will or without will" it is not going to take a hard corner very well.

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