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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    No, the vents work via atmospheric pressure

    I run my vent hose down, some vents run up and over. The vents are 1 way, so no oily mess should go the opposite direction. I hope this helps
    It does help, thanks Jack....think running the tubes down from the bolts would be the best way.

    Do you have a catch can or a vent filter....or both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannymax View Post
    It does help, thanks Jack....think running the tubes down from the bolts would be the best way.

    Do you have a catch can or a vent filter....or both?
    Kinda sort of

    I have a drain valve on mine

    Once a week I open it and rain the hose into a bucket and recycle the oil and water
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    Kinda sort of

    I have a drain valve on mine

    Once a week I open it and rain the hose into a bucket and recycle the oil and water
    Cool idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    I listened to you when I first got here Jack & did my FW.
    Great Stuff guys.... THanks

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    Does the addition of an EBS kill the warranty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannymax View Post
    Does the addition of an EBS kill the warranty?
    Probably because it's EPA related. I could put mine back to stock in 5 -10 minutes if needed.

    It sure runs better & my oil analysis was great. The K&N air filter helped too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannymax View Post
    Does the addition of an EBS kill the warranty?
    Legally yes, it is part of the HD pollution control

    IMO as long as we are collecting the oil and not dumping it on the ground our engines are polluting less since the oily water mess is not getting reburned

    How ever with taking our bikes outside of how they were originally built will be a legal problem and void our warranty
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    Kind of what I figured Ma EPA overreacting again! With a well designed system all that escapes to the environment are warm vapors....oil & water will condensate inside the collection vessel. I have a dipstick to monitor level, when there's enough water I'll pull it out for my morning coffee & use the oil in the chainsaw!

    Burning it up in the FW motor is just plain wasteful!
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    Just a thought, inspection & repair shops may be bound by reporting requirements on some of these alterations

    Something to keep in mind before a visit to the shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannymax View Post
    Kind of what I figured Ma EPA overreacting again! With a well designed system all that escapes to the environment are warm vapors....oil & water will condensate inside the collection vessel. I have a dipstick to monitor level, when there's enough water I'll pull it out for my morning coffee & use the oil in the chainsaw!

    Burning it up in the FW motor is just plain wasteful!
    Not only wasteful but harmful to the engine

    It promotes fast build up of carbon and creates a glaze on cylinders

    Over time the carbon build up can change your compression ratio a bit and cause flash over of spark along with higher cylinder pressure = pre ignition from hot spots across the top of the pistons, this can also lead to detonation the engine killer JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    I couldn't go yesterday. I installed an external breather system of my own design quiet a few months back & saw increased performance & keeping my engine oil level 1/2 way up the dipstick markings when checked cold, I get no oil blowby at all & I have no oil migration from my tranny.

    Mine runs awesome, with my only other engine mod being a K&N air filter in the stock box.
    Do you have a picture or description as to how you made your own external breather system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabimf View Post
    Do you have a picture or description as to how you made your own external breather system?
    No, no pictures. I would go to our vendor, DK Customs. They have information on their website.

    I am just not comfortable giving info on what I did to my trike in this case, cause it might not work for someone else.
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    Here is a link to a good article on the updates/changes to both HD trikes.

    https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/201...a-freewheeler/
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    I kind of wish they would have left the extras off the Freewheeler

    It IMO should remain the unmolested Hot Rod Trike

    I do like the bigger 114 engine I may test ride one without my wife
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    Rumors are the 114 engine has a new design oil pump and o ring to combat oil sumping

    If true I wonder if this will be a retro fit for the 107 and will warranty and ESP cover it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Klarich View Post
    I kind of wish they would have left the extras off the Freewheeler

    It IMO should remain the unmolested Hot Rod Trike

    I do like the bigger 114 engine I may test ride one without my wife
    I 100% agree with you on our FW. I do think that improving the linked braking system to work with either foot or hand actuator will help a lot of people with disabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    I 100% agree with you on our FW. I do think that improving the linked braking system to work with either foot or hand actuator will help a lot of people with disabilities.
    With out a doubt the linked brakes system is a winner for everyone
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    A little puzzled by these torque numbers, always read the M8 107 developed 110.6 ft/lbs, where does the 117 come from?



    "The Tri Glide Ultra and Freewheeler now feature the Milwaukee-Eight 114 engine, which delivers up to five percent more torque over the M8 107 (123 ft/lbs vs. 117 ft/lbs)"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDO View Post
    No, no pictures. I would go to our vendor, DK Customs. They have information on their website.
    I’ve had a DK Customs engine breather kit on my 2017 Freewheeler for over 10k miles and I am convinced that my engine runs better (and perhaps cooler too) for it. Based on SOTP only no hard data to support my opinion.

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    Remove hose from T fitting and replace with clear hose from hardware store.Drill hole in prescription pill bottle cap for hose.Drill 1/8" hole in cap for vent.Stowe behind filter element. Cost:free as I had the stuff laying around.Empty about once per week.

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