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    I am undecided csc or roadsmith I have a roadsmith now I don't know any thing about the csc the pros and cons any comparisons thank you

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    Both great conversions. The installation is the key to a great trike.

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    I prefer the California Sidecar myself. I think it has a bit more style to it. If you are going to get the running boards as well, the Roadsmith ones look a bit boxy but the CSC look more sporty. FWIW, when I was looking at conversions, I settled on an installer that does both for a while and has plenty of experience in both. He said both are good but recommended the CSC over the RS so I went with his recommendation and haven't looked back. With the CSC, I was able to retain the factory suspension controls and function. I also was able to retain the ABS braking feature and not sure if RS also offers that. I also went with the Passenger Comfort anti roll bar and love it with the independent suspension.

    I forgot to mention the CSC also offers a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty on their conversion kits which none of the other trike conversion companies offer. I already had to take advantage of that because somehow I ended up with a set of tires from factory that were bad. They told me to go through a local tire dealer to install new tires and CSC cut me a check to cover it. They even helped me identify the problem over the phone. Excellent customer service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwhoever View Post
    I prefer the California Sidecar myself. I think it has a bit more style to it. If you are going to get the running boards as well, the Roadsmith ones look a bit boxy but the CSC look more sporty. FWIW, when I was looking at conversions, I settled on an installer that does both for a while and has plenty of experience in both. He said both are good but recommended the CSC over the RS so I went with his recommendation and haven't looked back. With the CSC, I was able to retain the factory suspension controls and function. I also was able to retain the ABS braking feature and not sure if RS also offers that. I also went with the Passenger Comfort anti roll bar and love it with the independent suspension.

    I forgot to mention the CSC also offers a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty on their conversion kits which none of the other trike conversion companies offer. I already had to take advantage of that because somehow I ended up with a set of tires from factory that were bad. They told me to go through a local tire dealer to install new tires and CSC cut me a check to cover it. They even helped me identify the problem over the phone. Excellent customer service.
    CSC has 5 years unlimited mile warranty. That is significant. I have Motor Trike, but like the 2018 CSC and saw a video on the new 2018 Hannigan. It was pretty awesome as well. Beefed up the front end and larger front tire. Really impressive.
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    Roadsmith

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwhoever View Post
    I prefer the California Sidecar myself. I think it has a bit more style to it. If you are going to get the running boards as well, the Roadsmith ones look a bit boxy but the CSC look more sporty. FWIW, when I was looking at conversions, I settled on an installer that does both for a while and has plenty of experience in both. He said both are good but recommended the CSC over the RS so I went with his recommendation and haven't looked back. With the CSC, I was able to retain the factory suspension controls and function. I also was able to retain the ABS braking feature and not sure if RS also offers that. I also went with the Passenger Comfort anti roll bar and love it with the independent suspension.

    I forgot to mention the CSC also offers a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty on their conversion kits which none of the other trike conversion companies offer. I already had to take advantage of that because somehow I ended up with a set of tires from factory that were bad. They told me to go through a local tire dealer to install new tires and CSC cut me a check to cover it. They even helped me identify the problem over the phone. Excellent customer service.
    Impressive comment on the CSC, I was not aware that CSC was able to keep ABS and suspension controls, RoadSmith does not do that. I do like the configuration of the CSC better, I hope CSC has their drive shaft problem fixed. I chose Roadsmith over CSC back in 2012 when the drive shaft was a problem for CSC. I do so wish the Trike folks would design the 'sail fenders' a bit more aerodynamic, round them off a bit, better appearance, less bugs and debris, etc, but that's just my opinion. As for keeping the suspension and ABS, there must have been a good reason for Road Smith not keeping those two features, and so there's no misunderstanding about the RoadSmith, it has served me well, and I'm not giving it grief or regretting my choice in any way, just a comment.

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    Roadsmith offers three suspension options:

    1. Standard coil over shocks with manual adjustment.

    2. OEM suspension controlled preload.

    3. Accuride system that automatically adjusts ride height.

    RS has retained ABS capability I believe.

    CSC has the best looking trike on market IMO. However, I think nearly all CSC components are custom made where RS uses available auto parts designed for much more demanding service.

    CSC also has a CB problem on some units (a friend of mine has one) related to correct grounding which they seem unable to solve.

    Bottom line is RS, CSC, and Hannigan offer excellent kits with some major differences. It all comes down to what your personal requirements are. Again, installer is key.
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    on the csc does the passenger comfort anti-roll bar help the ride for the driver to and the handling of the trike to

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhgoldwing View Post
    Roadsmith offers three suspension options:

    1. Standard coil over shocks with manual adjustment.

    2. OEM suspension controlled preload.

    3. Accuride system that automatically adjusts ride height.

    RS has retained ABS capability I believe.

    CSC has the best looking trike on market IMO. However, I think nearly all CSC components are custom made where RS uses available auto parts designed for much more demanding service.

    CSC also has a CB problem on some units (a friend of mine has one) related to correct grounding which they seem unable to solve.

    Bottom line is RS, CSC, and Hannibal offer excellent kits with some major differences. It all comes down to what your personal requirements are. Again, installer is key.
    Hmmm Mike, I find that interesting, Since it was 2012 I had my conversion, the OEM suspension may have been an option to keep, but seems to me it was coil over shocks, OEM adjust, gone, but could have been either one or the other. ABS, I'm sure that was not an option, it had to go, at least that was true for the 2011/2012 build, maybe since that time RS has figured a way to keep ABS. Accuride was an option available that I didn't get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lund150 View Post
    on the csc does the passenger comfort anti-roll bar help the ride for the driver to and the handling of the trike to
    The standard CSC roll bar/anti sway is geared to performance handling and is stiffer to reduce body roll in the curves. The passenger comfort bars softens up roll bar and both driver and passenger benefit. Personally I would always opt for the performance version! 😊
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerbillone View Post
    Impressive comment on the CSC, I was not aware that CSC was able to keep ABS and suspension controls, RoadSmith does not do that. I do like the configuration of the CSC better, I hope CSC has their drive shaft problem fixed. I chose Roadsmith over CSC back in 2012 when the drive shaft was a problem for CSC. I do so wish the Trike folks would design the 'sail fenders' a bit more aerodynamic, round them off a bit, better appearance, less bugs and debris, etc, but that's just my opinion. As for keeping the suspension and ABS, there must have been a good reason for Road Smith not keeping those two features, and so there's no misunderstanding about the RoadSmith, it has served me well, and I'm not giving it grief or regretting my choice in any way, just a comment.
    As far as the driveshaft problems, it was the Cobra model that had the issue. I was told that it was a modified GL1500 driveshaft and wasn't up to the task. The Viper models use a specially designed driveshaft and seems to have solved the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhgoldwing View Post
    The standard CSC roll bar/anti sway is geared to performance handling and is stiffer to reduce body roll in the curves. The passenger comfort bars softens up roll bar and both driver and passenger benefit. Personally I would always opt for the performance version! ��
    I really like the passenger comfort model. I normally ride solo. I just got back from a week long trip to NE Arkansas and put quite a few miles on tackling those twisties. I had no problem keeping up with other bikes and felt in control the whole time. I even led a few times and was told it was a decent pace. Most of my riding is on the boring flat lands of Illinois, Indiana and Southern Wisconsin so I decided to go more for the comfort decision instead of the performance and found that is still more than up to the task when needed.

    http://ride.californiasidecar.com/index.html@p=83.html

    Forgot to mention, my installer said that mine was one of the first to have the passenger comfort ARB option and the first one he had done. He took it out on a test drive and was very impressed with the ride and planned on recommending it on future installs. He has been building and riding trikes for many years so I was very happy with his evaluation.

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