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    Okay I have another 3 hours with the 3/4" bit in the drill press. I figure tomorrow I will get it done all the way.

    I found my spacers, one I will have to get turned for the brake stay bushing, but I found it and I will have over 1/8th thickness to the spacer, and the nice thing is the spacers are 17mm ID x 26mm OD x 28mm long. I have to cut the length to what I need which is 22mm's, or near that, so I am excited as it was a good long day, but going forward.

    Oh Rex, how buzzy are you ? I am thinking you may have been more right about making my own set of tree's. Not sure about getting holes drilled, but cutting them out I can do. My mind was lost thinking I had wasted money, but the home built trees would still be with the 1" stem, so bearings and neck would be the same, duh.....

    Still have to get quotes back to compare cost, but it is looking like I might get it done faster if I just make my own larger bored trees.

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    can't help with trees except to say, check out possibility of a machine shop with water jet or wire edm (edm is slower, but more precise, and may be more expensive) to cut tree profiles and do the holes and slots of needed. I did mine by torching and boring with a mill drill, sawing slots with a sawzall etc.

    But 2 yrs later a good friends shop got a waterjet machine , woulda saved me a bunch of work, and maybe nicer trees.

    Rex will know more about this....I don't know how to program or run these machines, but they can do beautiful work!

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    It is easy for me to say "just make ya one"

    But I do forget it ain't so easy for everyone.

    Yes I do a lot of cnc programs.

    I do not have a wire.....almost got one early this year.....but no....not enough work for it.

    So yeah.....I would of stayed after hours and trolled the shop, picked up a scrap bit of metal off the floor, and whittled out the axle spacers in an hour or so.

    Most of my machinery is large. Do have some normal size stuff in the manual shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandpanystrom61 View Post
    Okay I have another 3 hours with the 3/4" bit in the drill press. I figure tomorrow I will get it done all the way.

    I found my spacers, one I will have to get turned for the brake stay bushing, but I found it and I will have over 1/8th thickness to the spacer, and the nice thing is the spacers are 17mm ID x 26mm OD x 28mm long. I have to cut the length to what I need which is 22mm's, or near that, so I am excited as it was a good long day, but going forward.

    Oh Rex, how buzzy are you ? I am thinking you may have been more right about making my own set of tree's. Not sure about getting holes drilled, but cutting them out I can do. My mind was lost thinking I had wasted money, but the home built trees would still be with the 1" stem, so bearings and neck would be the same, duh.....

    Still have to get quotes back to compare cost, but it is looking like I might get it done faster if I just make my own larger bored trees.
    not sure what u r looking to do

    these are some parts we flame cut

    not by any means as nice as machined but a whole lot cheaper obviously the holes were drilled an spot faced

    you can hand draw what you want an we can flame cut it from the drawing

    let me know if we can help

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    Maybe I missed an email or phone call, but contacted 3 machine shops, only 1 replied and referred me to another I had already submitted a quote with. Maybe it is just to much cost and they do not want to break my heart, not sure will try again in person this time.

    The tree material is thicker than I can handle, jigsaw and metal blade works on thinner material, but not even sure if I can do the 5/8" thick rockers, sure not liking another 1/4" to drill out. It would take and wear out this cheap drill press, or me, LOL.

    My trees are hidden up under the fiberglass body and I am limited on room.

    I have zero metal working tools, a few flat and round type files, a few drill bits and taps, but not much else. I was more into wood working tools as I like making flutes, but still no lave to help it all go faster, so lots of hand work is what I do.

    Okay thank you so much for all the help and offers. This is awesome as I need to see what options I have available as locals have not stepped up to the plate yet.

    3/4" thick tree material is just out of my scope of abilities and tools. I can work the edges and surface to clean up, but that is about it. Moving forward against all obstacles....

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    being the trees are hidden by the body .....that fact means a flame cut on the outer profile will be fine, maybe some cleanup and radius work with a 4 in grinder with a flap disc.

    talking about the lower tree now...

    the bores for the tubes and stem bolt should be straight with a good finish and accurately located.

    also slots for clamping tubes in lower tree.

    Now talking top tree...I welded in slugs, and drilled and tapped them in the top end of my tubes, therefore I have 2 holes drilled for the bolts that fasten the tubes to the top tree. the only other holes are for the handlebar risers and the stem bolt.

    the fork tube boltholes and the stembolt hole were located with the 3 holes in the lower tree.

    there are many ways to do this, my method was dictated more or less by what tooling I had around my shop, which was minimal compared where I used to work.

    Don't be afraid to get around your local machine shops, machinists, may seem like a cantankerous lot, but they are not, just very busy and doing stressful work.

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    So looks like I have to go into Reno and find a machine shop, not that I had any taker's yet, but I will hunt one down after this holiday is over.

    I wonder if you can get a screwed up drill bit, for the price you would think not, but I have spent lots of time on this 7/8" hole and it is only 1/3rd of the way done. I really hope the final pass goes a lot faster. At least when I get this Brake Stay done I can say I did it all, okay the work, all the advice and help came from this site, so we did it actually.

    Okay need to get things done, hope all can enjoy this holiday.

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    Not the drill bit, rather the drill press operator!

    Some point the lock nuts for the drill depth had vibrated and worked themselves down to stopping the bit from going down any further.......wonder how much time and cutting oil I wasted.

    This episode did teach me, again, to make sure all is set as it should be with the power tool before turning it on, and if you turn it off, make sure all is as it should be before turning it ON again.

    Feel like a fool, no reason for such an error. I would blame it on to many beers, but I do not/can not drink. Just me rushing around to much trying to get to much done at the same time, slow down time!

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    My drill press will do the same thing......I always look at the bit, reasonable sharp... chuck it up start drilling and WTH ....bit can't be bad....hit a hard spot in the steel...no, finally look at the depth stop, it vibrated down.....happens about 3 or 4 times a yr. LOL

    thought you were spending a lot of time drilling....hope it goes better for you!

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    Well I did learn a little trick on the 7/8" run, so this final pass should be my best. Have many hours on the press and I know how to keep her slow and easy and not heating up, key is never any smoke.

    I had to reset all up after the clean up, than the double check on the bushing out dia and the drill bit, should be close, but still should press in. I will only know the truth when I get done, should be some time today.

    I got the outter points of the drill bit to break surface of the metal and got the last hole started about 1/64th deep before my day ended.

    I hope all have a great Hump day, mine is already planned out, enjoy your day.

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