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    I have just purchased a 1986 Stires Stallion Flat Back Trike. Looking for a detailed parts manual. Also any wiring diagrams. Whoever wired this trike originally needs their knuckles whacked. LOL. Having a hard time trying to figure out what year of volkswagen was used for brakes etc. this trike was purchased directly from Stires. I have all of the original order documets. Any help would be appreciated..

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    Welcome to TT Glenn.

    The serial# on the engine block will tell the year of the engine. As for the transaxle, there is no way to put an exact year on that.

    Is it a swing axle or IRS? Depending on your answer, a year range can be established...
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    It has likely been rebuilt/apart several times and is pieced back together with whatever.

    A lot of the vw stuff interchanges.

    Pictures of the vw parts and we can narrow it down a lot.

    The cast in numbers that stick up above surface do not mean much and do not identify anything.

    You are looking for numbers that are stamped into the metal.

    Pictures, pictures.

    As far as wiring goes..

    I do not have a diagram specific to your trike.

    Most of it will be wired extremely similar to a vw. The main difference being the use of the motorcycle switches on the handlebars instead of the dashboard switches.

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    The trike is all original. Never touched. Only 691 miles since built new. The engine is by Dune Buggy Performance in California. It hasn't even had its first oil change yet. The only thing wrong is the electrical. Poor choice of connectors and wiring methods. Lots of t-tap connectors and tape. Going to have to change everything to proper heat shrinked crimped connectors and soldered joints.

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    That is how my VW trike was wired, but by to many hands trying to correct or add stuff to the electrical system.

    I started by drawing out how and what was wired on the trike, looked up other wiring of trikes and VW engine's, and figured out the proper and better way, than I drew up the wiring diagrams for the circuits and rewired the trike. I also put in a full instrument panel at the same time.

    I would say you have a nice winter project if you want to get it done correctly, also all has years of weather to it, so look over the switch's and any relays for any that may or should be replaced.

    Not all install all correctly, I actually have to re do my light circuit so relays are used and I do not burn things up. I have learned a lot on this site, plus the proper way a fuel system should be set up, it does not have to be that way, but it is safer.

    Welcome to the site and your new Trike, sounds great and hope all checks out ready to rumble.

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    Default brake ID and wiring

    I think that any parts list you might find for Stires or Arizona trikes would not help you; neither company is around. I have no idea who owns the rights to those molds and parts now. If you are missing parts, you will have to either fabricate or find a replacement from someone like Possum Pride trikes.

    To help ID your brakes, see this page:

    https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=550290&start=0

    The pictures are missing but there is valuable information there for identifying the parts you need for the brakes.

    Not knowing how comfortable you are with wiring and what you are starting with (what is already on the bike and usable and what needs to be done to make it right) makes it difficult to advise you on a course of action. If it is truly FUBAR, I would replace it all. You can find relatively inexpensive kits (EMPI makes one) to provide the wires and a new fuse block. If you want to update to blade fuses now is the time to do that.

    Here is an EMPI harness with a wiring diagram that you should be able to modify to use for your bike:

    https://dunebuggywarehouse.com/wire-loom-kit.html

    Just delete the extra headlight and wipers. That diagram is set up for a VW speedometer, where all the dash gauges and warning lights lived. Easy enough to work around with stand alone gauges by following where the wires are going from the speedometer.

    If you are running an alternator, the AMP light, filament type 2W, is absolutely essential. See this article:

    http://www.vw-resource.com/alternator_wiring.html#alt

    Let us know if you need advice on 'how-to' splice, solder, etc.
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    Pulled body off today. Tagged and identified all circuits. Starting to lay out my custom wiring harness. Calculating correct amount of fuses and relays to do the job. Will be adding remote controlled hidden underbody lighting, Line lock and other electrical goodies. Will be upgrading to all LED running lighting. I don't mind putting in a bit of time and effort to do a job that will last for the life of the trike and not having any electrical issues down the road.

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