Secondary Clutch Actuator sounds like a fancy name for slave cylinder, and definitely will require bleeding. They will replace the fluid with new I would think.Originally Posted by MDO
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Secondary Clutch Actuator sounds like a fancy name for slave cylinder, and definitely will require bleeding. They will replace the fluid with new I would think.
2017 Freewheeler
Billet Silver
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Yes, they will have to bleed the system
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Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Yes I think so, plus IMO HD wanted to give the heavier baggers and Trikes an easier pull clutch
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
I checked my brake fluid level prior to my ride today & it was in limits & did not look bad at all, though it was definitely darker that new DOT 4. I turned my pleasure ride/lunch into a ride to my dealer.
I do have some updated info from my chosen dealer, Doc's HD in STL.
As others stated, they said the initial recall replacement parts will start arriving at dealerships 11/5/2018.
They were told they would receive recall repair kits weekly until all are fixed. I am scheduled to get the fix on Wednesday, November 14 in the morning. I told them the only thing that would hamper this if there is ice/freezing rain or snow.
They will flush the system while in there & I am glad, as I don't have to mess with it & getting that cover off. I will do the front & rear brakes later this year & will then be on a schedule to flush all brake fluid lines every even year.
As far as my ride today ( 50 miles), my Freewheeler is still running like a dream & improving with every ride, If that's possible.I am impressed with the M8, as far as torque & smoothness, after the minor adjustments I made, which were a K&N replacement air filter in the stock box & an external breather system of my own design.
2017 Harley Davidson Freewheeler (107 cu.in. vivid black).
Good info Michael
I am wondering if this new slave cylinder has a smaller piston
If it does the tranny oil will be easier to drop down and flow back to the gears
This could help the oil migration
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Michael, did your dealer give you an estimate of time involved to perform recall work?
2017 Freewheeler
Billet Silver
Compassion for animals is intimately connected with goodness of character....and it
may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals,cannot be a good man.
clutch
Talked to my dealer Friday. Asked him about a clutch recall on the 2019 TG. Nothing yet, but since they use the same parts as the last couple years, expect one. His words
2019 TriGlide, Twisted Cherry. Khrome Werks 2+2 bars, Eagle Lights front and rear
DK foot board extensions, rear bearing retainer plates, tourpack relocation kit and oil filter relocation kit
with cooler, powder coate tod wheels, Progressive 444 shocks,. More
Dan, I read book time is 1 hour
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Here is what I gleamed from the NHSTA
Year: 2017 Make: Harley-Davidson Model: Freewheeler
Number of Open Recalls: 1
NHTSA Recall Number: opens new window takes away from VIN lookup section> Not Available Recall Date: October 18, 2018
Manufacturer Recall Number: 0173
SUMMARY:
The hydraulic clutch system with secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131and 37200131A on the subject motorcycles may exhibit an internal leak of fluid past the secondary clutch actuator piston/seal. If this leak continues for an extended period, the clutch master cylinder reservoir could lose enough fluid toexpose the hydraulic clutch circuit to air, which may result in the inability togenerate enough lift to disengage the clutch. SAFETY RISK:
If this condition remains undetected, it could lead to a loss of control of the vehicle when started in gear, first shifted into gear, or coming to a stop. REMEDY:
Owners of affected motorcycles will be asked to arrange service with an authorized Harley-Davidson dealer, who will confirm that the motorcycle is covered by this recall. If covered, the dealer will install a new secondary actuator piston assembly from the recall kit, P/N 91500093. This service will beprovided at no charge to the customer.
RECALL STATUS:
Recall INCOMPLETE
MANUFACTURER NOTES:
NA
If the manufacturer has failed or is unable to remedy this safety recall for your vehicle in a timely manner, please contact the NHTSA Vehicle Safety Hotline at: 1-888-327-4236 or TTY: 1-800-424-9153 or file an online complaint with NHTSA.
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My 17 is on the list,this will make the 8th issue I have had with this bike.I was thinking of buying a new one in 2020 but HD is going to have to get their act together before I buy another new one.The service guy i spoke to today said he had a question for the HD rep.If the brake fluid is leaking into the trans and the trans is migrating into the primary what is brake fluid doing to the clutches?
You might want to look up your State's Lemon Laws and see if they apply to your current trike? These problems have been all over the place in terms of who gets affected and who doesn't. I sort of took a leap of faith and only having one problem with my 2017 trike which was a front O2 sensor with no migration or other issues, I decided that maybe the MOCO is getting it together and I got a beautiful Scorched Orange/Black Denim 2019. I hope I didn't open a can of worms?
Like Jack said, they estimate 1 hour.
The service manual states you need to loosen the pipes from the cylinder heads to get the cover off, but most say you can just loosen the heat shields. I saw it done on the Fix My Hog website, but it was not on a trike, it was an M8 touring model.
If the cover comes off easy, the rest of the recall is a breeze.
2017 Harley Davidson Freewheeler (107 cu.in. vivid black).
I doubt it I've had a 14 Ultra Limited, 16 triglide and now a 18 triglide - all of them same clutch strength. start working on your muscles
I checked with my dealer last Friday, and was told by the service writers that the part were to be shipped by Harley on the 15 of November, So to check with them around Thanksgiving for repair dates.
Ray
2017 Harley Triglide
Tijuana Border
Checked the website and mine is on recall. Checked with the dealer and they said parts would be in about Nov. 5. They said they didn't know how many they might get but put me on a list and said they would give me a call.
2017 Tri Glide Ultra All mods so far have been for comfort.
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Some new info
OMB Control No.: 2127-0004
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
Manufacturer Name :
Harley-Davidson Motor Company
Submission Date :
OCT 22, 2018
NHTSA Recall No. :
18V-734
Manufacturer Recall No. :
0173
Manufacturer Information :
Manufacturer Name :
Harley-Davidson Motor Company
Address :
3700 W. Juneau Avenue
Milwaukee WI 53201-0653
Company phone :
(414) 343-4056
Population :
Number of potentially involved :
177,636
Estimated percentage with defect :
1 %
Vehicle Information :
Vehicle 1 :
2017-2017 Harley-Davidson Touring, CVO Touring and Trike
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
All 2017 Touring, CVO Touring and Trike model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 92744
Production Dates :
MAR 06, 2016
- JUN 17, 2017
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Vehicle 2 :
2017-2017 Harley-Davidson Softail: FLSS, FLSTFBS, FXSE
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
2017 Softail FLSS, FLSTFBS, FXSE model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 5115
Production Dates :
MAR 16, 2017
- JUN 28, 2018
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Vehicle 3 :
2018-2018 Harley-Davidson Touring, CVO Touring, Trike
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
All 2018 Touring, CVO Touring and Trike model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
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2
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 79777
Production Dates :
MAR 06, 2017
- JUN 28, 2018
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Description of Defect :
Description of the Defect :
The hydraulic clutch system with secondary clutch actuator part numbers
37200131 and 37200131A on the subject motorcycles may exhibit an internal
leak of fluid past the secondary clutch actuator piston/seal. If this leak
continues for an extended period, the clutch master cylinder reservoir could
lose enough fluid to expose the hydraulic clutch circuit to air, which may result
in the inability to generate enough lift to disengage the clutch.
FMVSS 1 :
NR
FMVSS 2 :
NR
Description of the Safety Risk :
If this condition remains undetected, it could lead to a loss of control of the
vehicle when started in gear, first shifted into gear, or coming to a stop.
Description of the Cause :
An internal leak of fluid past the secondary clutch actuator piston/seal.
Identification of Any Warning
that can Occur :
In vehicles in which this condition is present, the fluid level in the clutch master
cylinder may become low.
Supplier Identification :
Component Manufacturer
Name :
BREMBO NORTH AMERICA, INC
Address :
47765 Halyard
Plymouth MICHIGAN 48170
Country :
United States
Chronology :
See attached chronology.
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3
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
Description of Remedy :
Description of Remedy Program :
Owners of affected motorcycles will be asked to arrange service with an
authorized Harley-Davidson dealer, who will confirm that the motorcycle
is covered by this recall. If covered, the dealer will install a new secondary
actuator piston assembly from the recall kit, P/N 91500093.
This service will be provided at no charge to the customer. Pursuant to 49
CFR577.11(e), Harley-Davidson requests that it be exempt from providing
a notification of a reimbursement plan. Any pre-notification product
failure would have been replaced under the manufacturer’s limited
warranty. Accordingly, no person would be eligible for reimbursement
pursuant to 573.13.
How Remedy Component Differs
from Recalled Component :
The secondary actuator piston assembly in the recall kit (P/N 91500093)
has a lip seal with a different material. Additionally, the surface finish of
the piston assembly has been changed.
Identify How/When Recall Condition
was Corrected in Production :
The updated secondary actuator piston seal assembly was introduced at
the start of model year 2019 production.
Recall Schedule :
Description of Recall Schedule :
Harley-Davidson will notify the dealer network on or about 10/22/2018.
Owner notification letters will be sent beginning on or about
11/05/2018.
Planned Dealer Notification Date :
OCT 22, 2018
-
OCT 22, 2018
Planned Owner Notification Date :
NOV 05, 2018
-
NOV 09, 2018
* NR - Not Reported
Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Tri Glide recall
I have 2018 Tri Glide clutch is on recall. But also per dealer fluid from transmission leaked over into the primary also with the clutch recall. and a primary leak at the same time. The dealer didn't think it was a big deal about losing fluid from transmission. Has anyone else had a similar problem? Bike has been at the shop for two weeks.
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Nuff Said," Were Burnin Daylight, Lets Ride"(Sober 37 years)
Current ride : 2021 FREEWHEELER M8, oldest ride 1960 FL
Steven welcome to Trike-Talk.........
As far as the Transmission to the primary, Yes quite a few have that problem...And thats why i got rid of my 17 Tri-Glide .......
Sometimes a Cigar is Just a Cigar.....
2019 Tri-Glide.......
My 17 is having oil migration,the dealers job is to act like its all normal.Mine has had the so called fix installed but the weather has turned crappy and i dought if i will get 1000 miles on it before spring but at least it has been logged with HD.
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